Talk:The Executioner (book series)
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[edit] Calvin James
Although the information on Calvin James was good and complete, it was a bit long. All the other team members have short synopsis on them and Calvin James should not be any different. Also, added a "New Members" section within Phoenix Force to distinguish from the founding members. If anyone objects let's discuss. FrankWilliams 14:59, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Page moved
The disambiguator "paperback" is somewhat inappropriate since this article is not about one book -- in fact it is about a literary franchise. I have therefore moved the article. I also suggest that in the near future the individual series of books be split up into articles of their own. 23skidoo 13:10, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. I initially started the article for just the "Executioner" franchise. However, because there was very little with regards to the spinoff series as other articles, I added it since it was related and because the executioner stories are so intermingled with the spin-off series. I think ideally there should be an article for "Phoenix Force" and "Able Team". The info in the executioner article should remain as a way of tying all three franchises together. FrankWilliams 14:07, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed, no argument there. I originally was going to move the article to Executioner (literary franchise) however that seems to be an uncommon term. And to move it to Executioner (character) is obviously wrong since Mack Bolan has an article. I also agree that, since the other spinoffs have (or will have) their own articles, a separate one for the magazine is also warranted, though it's worth noting here that one was published. I wasn't sure at first if there was a connection to Pendelton until I found the cited webpage that indicated that it had a Pendelton connection, at least at first. 23skidoo 15:07, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] New Article
I created a Phoenix Force article with the proper links. They along with Able Team can continue to grow while the executioner article can serve as a place that ties all three franchies together with minimal edits and changes to the Phoenix Force and Able Team paragraphs.FrankWilliams 14:31, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] List of books
The list is waaay too long. Why not just link to the relevant lists on MackBolan.com? - KingRaptor 09:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Agreed that the list is long; however wiki articles should be self enclosed. If a link goes down the list is unavailabe. Also, just in principle most of the information in wiki is "Somewhere" why not just link everything. :) Seriously, this is why the list is at the end; that way users who are not interested don't have to scroll through. FrankWilliams 13:24, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Heroic Virtue Philosophy Behind The Executioner
"Mack Bolan was simply a man who could command himself." – Don Pendleton, War Against the Mafia
"There are men, wrote Aristotle, so godlike, so exceptional, that they naturally, by right of their extraordinary gifts, transcend all moral judgment or constitutional control: 'There is no law which embraces men of that calibre: they are themselves law.'" Hughes-Hallett, Lucy. Heroes. Alfred A. Knopf, 2004.
[edit] Citations missing
I have added the citations missing template to the article. Other then citations for 3 aliases he uses in one of the hundreds of books, it is currently unreferenced. Proper, inline citations need to be added for the article to carry proper encyclopedic value. Also, citations from secondary sources need to be added as well, as citing the books is not quite enough (see WP:FICT). For an article on such a notable book series this desperatly needs to be fixed. I know for a fact there are many Don Pendleton interviews transcribed on the internet, along with many other secondary and tertiary sources that can be used. I will try to help cleanup the article as well, but this is something that is going to take more then just my involvement, as I have not read any of the books in years. Any help by fellow editors would be greatly appreciated. It also may be a good idea to merge in the Mack Bolan article. I believe there is little a seperate article can add as the character is tied so specifically to the series of books and vice versa. That article is also in desperate need of repair, and does not appear salvageable in it's current state.
Iarann 08:46, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Anonymous team of writers"
In the series listing, alongside the 39th title we find this: "taken over by an anonymous team of writers as "Don Pendleton's Mack Bolan". There are several problems with this. First and most significant, there was from #39 until some time after I quite buying on a regular basis (if it did in fact ever stop appearing) a note on the reverse of the title page, above the copyright info, reading, "Thanks to [name] for his special contributions to this work" or extremely similar words, and there was never any doubt in my mind that this was whoever actually wrote the thing. The early Gold Eagle titles were packaged as "Mack Bolan The Executioner," a stylized logo, and the novel's title bylined "by Don Pendleton." The first three titles in the ABLE Team and Phoenix Force side series had Pendleton's name above the real writer in the byline, too. This can in fact be seen in the repros of the covers of those series' respective first entries here. Beginning with #48 of the regular series, Pendleton's name was reduced to a blurb, "Based on the character created by...." Only as of #54 is it rendered in the possessive described in the article (all this via cover scans at mackbolan.com—truly linked at the bottom of the article—which also identifies the supposedly "anonymous" writers of each and every book). All this aside, I feel there should be some acknowledgement of Pinnacle"s The Executioner's War Book, beyond being cited as a source three times. And the listings should also make clear that #63, The New War Book, is not a novel but does for the Gold Eagle entries what the above did for the Pinnacle series. Ted Watson (talk) 20:15, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
