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[edit] Rock'n'Roll?

I'm certainly not the one best able to judge, but do the Everly Brothers really deserve the title "rock and roll"? Weren't they MOR pop, even for the era? --Robert Merkel

MOR didn't exist at the time; if anything, Perry Como was MOR
I remember being in Ottawa, 1957, hearing a couple of local kids on their front step, strumming their guitar and singing... Claudette, pretty little pet, Claudette.... fantastic. It seems that you only appreciate the genius of music when you hear it performed live.

--Coasting

Was I too harsh in the article, then? I can't imagine parents preventing their daughters from going to an Everly Brothers concert, unlike, say, an Elvis concert, but the operative word here is "imagine" when you're born long after the Beatles broke up :) By the way, I'm not knocking the quality of their music - just because it wasn't as shocking as some doesn't make it inferior. --Robert Merkel
Believe me, it was racy for its time. - Coasting
Speshly when "Wake Up Little Susie" is brought into the equation - very daring for the 50's. Lion King 00:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes, "Wake up Little Susie" was banned in Boston (which, in itself, is an illustrative phrase for anything onsidered in the least bit racy). But the term "rock & roll" was meant to illustrate (pardon my redundancy) the tempo of the music - and perhaps what it made people feel like doing.-- FlaviaR (talk) 17:02, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I grew up in that era. They were rock+roll alright. Just not hard rock. "Hard rocks" were tuff guys like Carl Perkins (mean-eyed cats with a razor). Did you have the term "hard rock" for guys where you lived? It sounds funny to me when now that music is often categorized as "pop". Let's say soft rock. That's what rock + roll was. Dean Martin, Billy Vaughn and Jane Morgan were pop. My mother thought the Everlys sounded great. Hello to Kentucky. I took some photos of them in 1967 and could put one in this public domain, once I figure the process. I take it any LP covers can't be used. George Slivinsky 21:16, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I'd love to see some of your photos added to the article. Have a look at this how-to for instructions. Also, I think you can upload LP covers under fair use. Check out the details here. Acdixon 15:14, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photos for the Article

(continued from "rock + roll".

I understand copyright fairly well. For example I defend the right to share music between individuals. I've read the Wiki sections, and I feel using an LP cover does not meet fair use. It would not be for "critical review" of the LP or the photo. So if you think, you can easily upload cover art yourself. But convince me if you can. I'll get around to one of my photos. If the Everlys see it they might remember me walking around the stage that time. George Slivinsky 18:28, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

I won't be submitting my photos. I looked and only two are good enough, and I don't want to lose my copyright. But I have published a couple at my blogspot: http://worldjournal-gs.blogspot.com/. I also have closeups, unpublished so far. If any of you in Kentucky are in a position to contact Warner Br re permission, I can provide a scan of WB Golden Hits or suggest other good portraits. If the WB company owns the copyright, I'd say it could only do them good promotion-wise. Cadence gets a lot more attention in reissues. And I prefer their more mature look on WB covers, mid-60s. George Slivinsky 08:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I saw a way to include the photo as part of the album discussion. If I pasted two scans I could have included the song titles. What do you think of this portrait compared to others? George Slivinsky 04:51, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Looks good to me. The article needed something. Thanks for your contribution and your recent work on the article. Acdixon 14:10, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

(undent) I added a fair use rationale. Ling.Nut 18:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tone of article

I was never a big fan of the Everly Brothers, but the tone of the article seems rather snide to me.

I agree, but things look differently in the rear-view mirror, especially if you weren't alive at the time - Coasting

Well, could somebody else revise this more accurately? I don't think I can write this article fairly, as to me these guys represent the epitome of 1950's white-boy dorkiness for all their undoubted vocal and compositional talents. I *know* that isn't fair or accurate, but I'm simply not in a position to give a fair perspective --Robert Merkel
I don't think the article is snide, nor inaccurate, nor in need of a revision. Thank you, Coasting. However, the disography could do with a minor addition. In 1964, Warner Brothers published a collection of hits, "The Very Best of the Everly Brothers," D 103826. Tom Mehle
If it helps, I adore the Everly Brothers & I don't see anything nasty about the article.-- FlaviaR (talk) 17:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Til I Kissed You

Among singles, i really miss mention of ('Til) I Kissed You Written by - Don Everly Peaked at #4 - 9/59. --Jerzy (t) 06:42, 2005 Apr 3 (UTC)

Now you not only have mention of it but a sample. Hope no copyright issues arise. I agree with your attraction to it. (But bevare the WB rerecording).George Slivinsky 05:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rift

Should something be mentioned about the fact that they badly fell out and didn't talk to each other for (10?) years. 80.42.144.228 19:12, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Felice and Boudleaux Bryant

Could an Everlys expert please add to the songlist at Felice and Boudleaux Bryant? --Design 09:43, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Will do at some point, Design. Thanks for directing me to it - I'll add some more (but by no means all) of their songs to F&B's list at some point in the future. Bobo. 18:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discography - Albums

The album "The Real Ev Br" was not issued in 1958. It must have been a later recent reissue about that period. I have removed it. Allmusic makes mistakes too. Can be added when date is found. George Slivinsky 07:54, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discography - Singles

made the Discography - Singles section a sortable wikitable. Removed a few of the less-notable songs. --Ling.Nut 14:52, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Disappointed at omissions. Could you at least put Love Is Strange back? Where are you working from ling nut? George Slivinsky 20:14, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
yes, that one was an accident...should definitely stay in due to its position on UK charts.. Love Is Strange 128US, 11UK. Am putting it back now. :-)
As for where my info is from, it's just the stuff that was previously there. But a few of those did not chart at all.. --Ling.Nut 20:34, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Should Don Everly's single "(The Graduation Song) Pomp and Circumstance" (reached #34 in the charts) released under the pseudonym Adrian Kimberly be included in this section? Dgnelson 02:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Do you have a verifiable/authoritative source for this info? --Ling.Nut 02:43, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
I know of it and do have the single. I say no, firstly because it is not Everly Br. It is instrumental, produced by Don. It might belong in Don's story. Billboard chart books by Joel Whitburn can confirm it.George Slivinsky 05:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "let 'em in"

Is it not worth a mention that "Phil and Don" are right there in the lyrics of Let_'Em_In by Paul McCartney?

206.248.152.57 03:14, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I think so - I am trying to think of a way to put it in where influences are discussed.-- FlaviaR (talk) 17:04, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Army or US Marines

Under the early days section, it is noted that the Everly Bros entered the US Marine Corps. Below that, it is stated that "after their army service..." Which branch of the armed services did they enter? It might be interesting to hear a bit about that part of their lives if any others have information on that topic. 74.45.242.100 02:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Everly Brothers - Til I Kissed You.ogg

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[edit] Citations & References

See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 04:35, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removed a disputed 'fact'

Until 1990, the Everlys were the most successful charting U.S. rock and roll duo on the Hot 100. In 1990, the Everlys tied for that position with Hall & Oates, who in 2005 had their 35th Hot 100 single.

Errr, I count the Everlys as having had 36 singles in the Hot 100, while in 2005, Hall and Oates made just their 34th entry. (That's not counting Sara Smile twice for its two separate chart runs.) Which still gives the Everlys the lead... 172.162.189.226 (talk) 02:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)