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[edit] Breakthrough discovery: Newman's Gyroscopic Particles are simply EDDY CURRENTS!!!

Look at these pictures of eddy currents: http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/EddyCurrents/Graphics/EC_princ2.gif http://www.engineersedge.com/inspection/image/eddycu9.gif

Then look at Joseph Newman's "gyroscopic particles" http://www.josephnewman.com/more-info.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddy_currents

Bingo.Kmarinas86 (6sin8karma) 01:48, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Quite possibly. However, eddy currents don't explain his claimed (but never convincingly demonstrated) 'over unity' performance. For that you need some yet-to-be-explained matter-to-energy conversion or a repeal of the 1st law of thermodynamics. SteveBaker (talk) 14:25, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Look up Larmor formula. That's E=mc^2 right there.Kmarinas86 (6sin8karma) 07:25, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Still doesn't prove the claim of more energy coming out than being put in. — NRen2k5(TALK), 12:41, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Internets can't do that. You have to physically be there.Kmarinas86 (6sin8karma) 00:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Arbirtration panel ruling over Pseudoscience and published theories.

I thought I should copy over from WP:Fringe theories the following information from the Arbitration panel:

  • Appropriate sources Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Reliable sources require that information included in an article have been published in a reliable source which is identified and potentially available to the reader. What constitutes a reliable source varies with the topic of the article, but in the case of a scientific theory, there is a clear expectation that the sources for the theory itself are reputable textbooks or peer-reviewed journals. Scientific theories promulgated outside these media are not properly verifiable as scientific theories and should not be represented as such.

...which means that the theories of Joseph Newman may not be represented as scientific theories in Wikipedia until they have been published in reputable textbooks or peer-reviewed journals - which they clearly have not. In line with this ruling, I have rearranged the article and put particular emphasis on the lack of scientific backing for Newman's theories.

SteveBaker (talk) 18:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)