Talk:The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife

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Contents 1 Invention of Manga 2 Translation 3 Name 4 Movie 5 Translation of inscription

[edit] Invention of Manga

someone removed the mentioning that Hokusai invented manga - afaik he was the first to do such "sketches" and call them manga, maybe that should be put back in? (clem 14:18, 6 May 2005 (UTC))

The thing is, it is attributed to him to have created picture books (ehon) that were similar in style (or precursors) of Manga. I removed it, because I think it is just an observation of similarity between manga and his ehon. If you want to add a short statement about who Hokusai is, it could be something in the vein of "famous Muromachi artist, who is attributed with revolutionizing ukiyo-e and because of his influence, even with the invention of manga." Ben talk contr 04:31, May 9, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

Fishanthrope added some translation of some text as a minor edit. I think, therefore, the text probably is not real. I will revert the changes. Jax 18:01, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

You did well. Real or not, here was not the place for it (apart from the question of licensing). Ben ^T/_C 19:40, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

What does the text say? I'd like to know, and surely the article should include at least a sentence summarizing it. -leigh (φθόγγος) 04:25, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

The first sentence does, doesn't it? --Ben ^T/_C 19:09, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name

I have just picked up a book at my college library with over 100 works by Hokusai (information to follow question) that gives the title of this painting, "A Pearl Diver and Two Octopuses." Here though, it is titled "The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife." I was wondering what the true name of this painting is. I trust Wikipedia and the people who edit, and create the pages but I am getting a different title that is a more reliable source of accurate information so I am at a quandery of what to believe. If you want to check out the book yourself, the following is a bibliography stating the nessesary information to find the book in question.

Forrer, Matthi. Hokusai. Munich: Prestel-Verlag, 1991.

The painting is located on page 204. If anyone can help me sort out this confusion, I would be extremely appreciative. --User:Nsmith4658

The description given it on the image's Wikipedia page (蛸と海女の図, tako to ama no zu) translates directly to "picture of octopus and a female shell-diver". I don't see anything on the image itself that stands out as being a title, nor a signature for that matter, that I might be able to read or translate... LordAmeth 01:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate your effort. Thank you. --User:Nsmith4658

[edit] Movie

Added reference to the movie made by Kaneto Shindô at 1981, that refers this work and life of Hokusai. There are also stills available of the movie in the net, but I didn't include link to the still images to avoid copyright problems --84.231.173.158 18:50, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

As far as I know, citing IMDB as a source is worse than citing Wikipedia. —Frungi 19:17, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Translation of inscription

Wasn't there a translation here somewhere? Anyway, I found two sources of it but I hope that someone can verify the source: "Translation of the inscription by: James Heaton and Toyoshima Mizuho. Published in the Kyoto Journal, No. 18, 1992"

http://buffoonery.org/blog/2004/11/tako_pr0n.html http://www.poormojo.org/cgi-bin/gennie.pl?Squid+264+bi

Kent Wang 16:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)