Talk:The Downward Spiral
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[edit] Concept exploration lacking
The discussion of the album's concept is really biased and unimaginative. Surely someone has a more interesting and though-provoking interpretation of the album. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.154.95.133 (talk • contribs)
- That, and it was clearly cut & paste from another website, so I removed it. — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 10:59, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Well, not only is it still there in the article (1 year later) and still uncited, but it is, as someone said, totally unimaginative and blasé. It's also presented as FACT, not an interpretation of Reznor's lyrics. Chris 19:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Dual Disc Video Correction
To whomever manages this page, I wanted to say that all 3 music videos on Dual Disc version are all done in both 5.1 Surround and Stereo, this is a misconception due to the fact that they screwed up on the menu of the disc, it makes it look as though only Closer has both, what they meant was "Play all in 5.1 Surround or Play all in Stereo". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.187.169.190 (talk • contribs)
[edit] Trivia Incorrect?
"The looping female voice that appears on "Reptile" is a sample from The Texas Chain Saw Massacre."
I don't seem to remember a looping female voice in "Reptile." Maybe the original editor meant "The Becoming?" That would make more sense, I KNOW there's a looping female voice in that song. But I don't know for sure if it was a typo, so I'm afraid to change it. If anyone knows if this is a typo, please fix it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drewcifer3000 (talk • contribs)
Listen to "Reptile" at 5:05. Is this the sound that is being referred to? —Preceding unsigned comment added by NickD (talk • contribs)
It could be, but without a source, we cannot make a claim like that. -- Reaper X 20:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
The song meant to be referenced here is actually "Reptile", "The Becoming" is actually a typo. (there are a bunch of voices in the "crowd" being looped throughout THAT song, lol.) But on "Reptile" at about 5:05, the sample is from a scene in "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" with one of the girls in the movie whispering "Kirk, help!". That sound is looped a few times before closing the song. Also the rest of this section is correct. A sample from an Iggy Pop record (The Idiot) is used in "Closer" and "Mr. Self Destruct" blatantly opens with a loop from THX-1138. I doubt I would have to make an Ogg Theora video of comparisons here. I am just as adamant about accuracy as everyone here and appreciate all efforts to meet that goal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Technolust (talk • contribs)
[edit] rip
Entire concept exploration is ripped from a dissertation posted to the internet on 1998, wouldn't be as pissed off if it was cited as a source at least. At the other extreme, should be removed shouldn't it?
I think it would be ideal to cite it, and then reword a lot of it so that not only is it no longer direct plagiarism, but is also in a more Encyclopedic format. D Boland 19:06, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to remove the concept description, since it's not only ripped from some place, but also uses lyrics, which repeat in a separate section anyway (which is also going to be deleted - lyrics websites exist not only for the sole purpose of grabbing money from advertising companies). If it is so important to the article, it would be better to write it from scratch. Litis 14:11, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- My bad, there's no lyrics section. I must be hallucinating... Litis 14:14, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Chart table
Regarding [1], my main point of contention is the legend
- "—" denotes releases that did not chart.
I don't think it can be interpreted any other way. –Pomte 16:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, I see what your point was now. But I don't think it can hurt to be clear. Besides, it's lifted directly form the NIN discography article. Drewcifer (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
