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[edit] On location vs green screen

On 20 August 2007 the show began a segment called "Operation Silent Thunder: The Daily Show in Iraq" in which correspondent Rob Riggle gives a report from Iraq. The title was later changed to "Operation Fluffy Bunny" with Riggle noting that "I guess all the good adjective-noun combinations are taken." The "Operation Fluffy Bunny" segment featured a much-visited remark by Republican Rep. Mike Pence of Indiana that Iraq is "like a normal outdoor market in Indiana in the summertime" along with pop-culture references to the 1994 movie Forrest Gump. The segment was once again changed to "Operation Macho Kick-ass" which featured soldiers' opinions on the Iraqi Parliament taking vacation from their duties during the month of August. "Operation Macho Kick-ass" in turn became "Operation Thundering Cameltoe". The name was accredited to a less-suggestive Iraqi phrase that was lost in translation.

We already mention several cases where the fact it was in front of a green screen was made clear so perhaps this isn't necessary but IIRC didn't the above segment have one episode where there were 2 people supposedly reporting from Iraq whereas it was later revealed one was simply using the background of the other one's report? Nil Einne (talk) 12:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes. If I remember correctly, Riggle was live, and Aasif Mandvhi was using his feed as the background. -- Viewdrix (talk) 19:41, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] writers strike mistake

i don't know if it is just me but after jon said that whole a daily show instead of the daily show after coming back from a commecial brack i saw the daily show instead of a daily show on the opening title comming back so you might want to watch the show's title more carfully during the show to see if they didn't change it. 71.117.30.38 (talk) 21:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)tim dalorane71.117.30.38 (talk) 21:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Jon Stewart is calling it 'A' Daily Show to show his support for the writers strike however the network it's on still recognises it a 'the' hence the commercial break titles being the same as pre strike. Hope that clears it up Agent452 (talk) 23:30, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
The real problem is that is does not belong in the lead. The show is The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. Somewhere in the body, the temporary shift to A should be mentioned. Articles shouldn't have temporary leads that have to change according to what's going on at the moment.Kww (talk) 14:55, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
How is he supportting the strike?? There seems to be little difference from before the strike. Who is writing the jokes etc??Macca7174talk 20:47, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article Split

There are two separate articles for Late Night With Conan O'Brien and Late Night With David Letterman. I think that should be the case here, as well. The Daily Show With Craig Killborn has little to do with today's show and probable doesn't deserve to be called Peabody and Emmy Award-winning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.60.180.3 (talk) 19:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you because Jon Stewart has many different segments than Kilborn. Anybody else back up on this?--Matt on Wiki (talk) 02:47, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jon Stewart's start date

Tonight's show, Jan. 17, 2008, had a clip of Jon Stewart from 1998. It says his start date was 1999 on this page. Is this wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.192.31 (talk) 04:13, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A Daily Show?

I think it might be important to add the A Daily Show to this article, because recently they have changed their name from "The" to "A" if anyone has a good source on why they changed their name could you please post it? Could you also post it here as well, because I would like to know myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.233.17.148 (talk) 11:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

They changed it in a show of support for the writers during the writer's strike. They wanted to make clear that the only reason they're on the air is because Comedy Central forced them to return, and that what is currently airing isn't the "real" Daily Show, so to speak. As it is A Daily Show has been redirected here. Is an explanation warranted? I'm not really sure either way. Stewart explained it on the first night back. faithless (speak) 11:48, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
This is confusing me The show will continue to honor the strike, with neither the show's writers nor Stewart performing their normal writing duties. To acknowledge this fact, the show is currently known as A Daily Show with Jon Stewart rather than The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, and will be until the end of the strike.[4] who is writing the show then? Gnevin (talk) 16:45, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Probably scabs. faithless (speak) 20:40, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
It's not really clear how much actual writing's going into the show. They are obviously preparing the material, but they don't appear to be reading off any script. They've also been airing (eg. Our Dead Planet) or repeating (eg. Thursday's Oliver/Wilmore report) segments that were written and filmed before the beginning of the strike. Shoemoney2night (talk) 07:57, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
User:Faithlessthewonderboy if you have an issue with unclear ,maybe use unknown or vague. This info is important and shouldn't be blanked Gnevin (talk) 16:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
It shouldn't be included at all. Just because you and I don't know who is writing the show doesn't mean anything. I don't know how they split the atom, but that doesn't mean I should edit nuclear fission and say, "It's unclear how this works." :) faithless (speak) 16:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
This is a very relevant point in terms of the strike, this show stopped because or the stike and has come back midway through without explained who will write the show . Perhaps that wording is better
To acknowledge this fact, the show is currently known as A Daily Show with Jon Stewart rather than The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, and will be until the end of the strike.[4]. It was however not clearly explained by Stewart who would be writing the show or to what extent' Gnevin (talk) 17:05, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
How can a show we preplanned video clips be ab lib? Gnevin (talk) 17:12, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
How can your head be so far up your ass. Does it matter, we have sources saying stuff is ad-libbbed. therefore, its adlibbed. Charles Stewart (talk) 17:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Charles as your new i'll point you to WP:Civil and leave it at thatGnevin (talk) 17:19, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Charles Stewart (talk) 17:21, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

(outdent)(ec)It says largely ad-libbed, not totally. More importantly, it's sourced, which is the most important thing. If you find a source which explains exactly who is doing what, then by all means include it. faithless (speak) 17:15, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Could we say ad-libbed around pre-planed topics ?otherwise fine Gnevin (talk) 17:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
makes sense. Charles Stewart (talk) 18:37, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA delist (article sweep)

In order to uphold the quality of Wikipedia:Good articles, all articles listed as Good articles are being reviewed against the GA criteria as part of the GA project quality task force. While all the hard work that has gone into this article is appreciated, unfortunately, as of February 5,

2008, this article fails to satisfy the criteria, as detailed below. For that reason, the article has been delisted from WP:GA. However, if improvements are made bringing the article up to standards, the article may be nominated at WP:GAN. If you feel this decision has been made in error, you may seek remediation at WP:GAR.

Detailed comments:

Since the article was listed as a GA in 2006, the criteria have been revisited and significantly tightened up (especially with regard to referencing). With regard to the current standards:

Criterion 1 (well written): The prose generally flows well and is pleasant to read. However, the lead does not provide an adequate summary of the article (per WP:LEAD), and there are a number of short paragraphs that might be best incorporated into their surroundings. There are also a large number of lists, some of which may be better either written into the prose, trimmed, or placed into separate 'list of...' type articles. Additionally, the article contains a number of minor WP:MOS violations (eg references spaced after punctuation).

Criterion 2 (factually accurate): This is the major area that needs attention; the article contains numerous gaps in its referencing, with some sections completely uncited and others only sparsely so. On the same subject, all web cites should include a retrieval date (we recommend using the templates on WP:CITET to ensure a standard format, but this is only a preference at present).

Criterion 3 (broad in its coverage): This may seem contradictory given the criterion, but in some ways the article coverage is too broad - resulting in a loss of focus. I believe more sections could be forked off into articles of their own without losing the essential coverage of the subject.

Criterion 6 (images): The image 'Kerry on the Daily Show.jpg' lacks a detailed fair-use rationale (the template {{Non-free use rationale}} might be useful here).

As a result of the amount of work required to bring the article up to current standards, I have reluctantly delisted it as a GA. Please feel free to renominate the article when the above issues have been addressed. Regards, EyeSereneTALK 21:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] US Army Web Filtering Policy

Changed the information about the show being broadcast on AFN to reflect that (1) the ban on streaming media is only on government-owned computers; a Service Member should be able to access the site via a computer provided by the United Service Organization or at Morale, Welfare and Recreation facilities, or by using a personal computer on a commercial connection. Also added citation for Army Regulation 25-1. Kant Lavar (talk) 12:03, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Redo

I have redone this page. all erased information can be recovered from article " The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" --Matthew (talk) 22:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I have turned that back into a redirect, there has been no consensus reached. Darrenhusted (talk) 11:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Timeline

I started a timeline. Any help would be appreciated.--Conrad Kilroy (talk) 01:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Interviews and Guests neutrality tag

Does anyone know why that neutrality tag is in the interviews and guests section. I don't see how the Seat of Heat stuff is not neutral, but if anyone finds the stuff after it to be not neutral, I don't see a reason why that stuff just can't be deleted. It doesn't seem that important anyway.--DeviantCharles (talk) 13:02, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Seeing no objections...I have removed the neutrality tag. 18.250.7.42 (talk) 06:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)