Talk:The Crow (film)

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Contents 1 Goth 2 Separate articles 3 Plot 4 Budget 5 Finishing the movie 6 Symbolism 7 Name of band 8 DVD details 9 Lee's death 10 the cathedral/church 11 Deaths section 12 Bullet 13 Unnecessary, Speculative and Poorly Written

[edit] Goth

The latest addition to the article refers to The Crow as a "Goth phenomenon". I don't think Goth is the right term for it. O'Barr, as far as I know, isn't in the goth culture, and this was made before goth was a part of pop culture. -- LGagnon

Well, back before it really had a name and a set 'look,' anyway. I was once informed that Eric was modeled on Peter Murphy (although the hair is more classic Daniel Ash), but I can't confirm this. Also, when did O'Barr first start working on The Crow in the first place? --Paul Soth 12:18, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)

It's correct as it is - the look, feel, and music that influenced the comic was Goth, but early 80's goth - not the commercial "goth" that was revived in the 90's. Joy Division and The Cure were two heavy influences in O'Barr's work, and he has said as much. Those two bands tipify the early goth scene. 80.177.0.2 02:27, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Separate articles

Shouldn't there be seperate articles for the comic book and for the movie? --Fritz S. 09:40, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

Agreed and done. violet/riga (t) 11:02, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Plot

Now that the comic and film have seperate articles, we should tidy up the Plot synonsis for both articles to reflect the individual stories. -- LGagnon 16:48, May 29, 2005 (UTC) And this was how it happened —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.4.15.158 (talk • contribs) 04:38, 5 September 2005.

Yes it seems kind of confusing now. Or at lest redirect them. TearAwayTheFunerealDress 15:33, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Budget

What was the budget for this movie? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.250.120.197 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 26 October 2005.

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Brandon Lee lived right down the street from me while they were filming this movie. He was really good friends with my parents. TearAwayTheFunerealDress 15:34, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

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This page, and every other "Crow" page needs to have The Crow: City of Angels (album) linked in the box on the right. I'd do it, but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to edit that.71.124.15.219 03:21, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Finishing the movie

If Brandon died, how did they finish the movie? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.54.102.122 (talk • contribs) 08:39, 24 February 2006.

When Lee died most of the movie had already been filmed. There were a couple of scenes where they used a body double, and digitally put Lee's face in, when required. The scenes are listed on imdb's trivia page for the movie [1]. --SnakeSeries 21:30, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Symbolism

Some effort to discuss the symbolism and esoteric aspects of the film should be made, such as the significance of the angels alluded to, or the symbols disguised as graffiti. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.61.220.57 (talk • contribs) 15:18, 24 April 2006.

As I understand it, the symbols disguised as grafitti come from the White wolf game Mage:_The_Ascension (they are the symbols representing the nine spheres of magick). Originally, the symbols were taken from old alchemical texts (according to White Wolf itself). Apparently, one of the set dressers was a fan of the game, which was relatively new at the time. This information came, as I recall, from Fangoria magazine around the time of Lee's death and before the release of the film, but I don't have an actual citation for it. -- Gregordyne 05:43, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name of band

Does anyone know the name of the band in the movie that plays before introducing the two kingpins because i really need to know who and what the name of that song is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.50.76.11 (talk • contribs) 21:46, 17 June 2006.

The one that plays live? Medicine. Tarc 04:43, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DVD details

I think we should include details for the Collector's DVD edition of this movie that included a Brandon Lee interview and some deleted scenes as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shakirfan (talk • contribs) 17:22, 30 June 2006.

Put the cover on the dvd as well. Get the US version. The current one is ugly. maybe find a movie poster.--D-Boy 04:08, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I think the DVD cover is fine in my opinion. (Shakirfan 16:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC))

I'm with D-Boy. The orange British version is awful (I see they're using a similar version at IMDb, too). The black poster with Lee in a white column of light is by far the best, although the gray crow image wouldn't be bad, either. --WWB 18:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Exactly.--D-Boy 06:32, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lee's death

I posted that Brandon Lee's death did not occur during the scenes where he get's shot in the apartment! I dont know why this was deleted as it is a stated fact by detectives which worked the case. The shot that was filming was the pawn shop sequence. I named my source as 'the best of unsolved mysteries' disc 2 episode 2. The program includes the detectives and Brandon Lee's mother..it is accurate as the death info written in the main article is false. stv —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.163.106.253 (talk • contribs) 15:34, 12 July 2006.

That contradicts every other source that details it happening during the loft/rape sequence. Plus, it was Michael Massee (Funboy) who fired the shot, and he was definitely not in the pawn shop scene with Lee. Not sure how your source gets around that one.

Until something conclusive is produced, this should be reverted. Tarc 18:32, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] the cathedral/church

does anyone know what the name of the cathedral or church is during the fight scene at the end? if not, can you tell me where it's located? -Wanderingstar3505 12:42, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

It does not exist, it was a semi built (it had two walls but no roof!) set. DerangedKitten 08:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)DerangedKitten.

[edit] Deaths section

Is this really necessary? It seems superfluous to me, and not an important plot point. Desdinova 18:55, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

No, it isn't. Removed. MSJapan 04:41, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bullet

It says Brandon Lee was shot with a 'dummy' bullet, should this read as a rubber or dum-dum bullet? Dueledge 21:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

No, it was a real bullet that wasn't supposed to be capable of firing, having no explosive charge in its cartridge. However, it was lodged into the gun's barrel when they used it in an earlier scene, and when the same gun was used to fire a blank cartridge (which has an explosive charge but no bullet), the explosion sent the old bullet flying out of the gun and directly into Lee's side. ShaleZero 15:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unnecessary, Speculative and Poorly Written

I will remove this from the "Death of Brandon Lee" section:

'Michael Masse, the actor who plays funboy, was not to blame. An unknown person in the production film, wanted the film to look real, but little did this person know that it would personally injure him.'

...as it contains spelling, capitalisation, and grammatical errors. It also contributes nothing to the reader's understanding and contains no verifiable or even meaningful information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liquidcentre (talk • contribs) 12:18, 31 August 2007 (UTC)