Talk:The Cremaster Cycle

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I've added a few screenshots to the article. They are all taken from the Cremaster 3 DVD. I am aware that the 'copyrighted screenshot category' specifies that there only be one of these images per article, but I believe that since there are 5 movies discussed within this article, it is still fair use to have more than displayed. Worst case, we can split up the cycle article into the different sections, keep the images and it would become an incentive to add information to the various sections of the cycle. -- Blahm 15:42, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Order 2 Removal of "needs infobox" tag 3 A lingering question 4 self-enclosed?

[edit] Order

These films were released in a 'random', non-sequential order. I imagine that it would be prudent to list them in the initial release order rather than the current sequential order. --Thaddius 05:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of "needs infobox" tag

This article has had its infobox tag removed by a cleanup using AWB.

Any concerns please leave me a message at my talk page. RWardy 06:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

This article is terrible and I think most of it is from the guy's own site. Sounds like the same voice anyway. Wikipedians, fix this terrible article! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.57.107.61 (talk) 23:36, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A lingering question

Where on earth did the money come from to produce this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.163.157.89 (talk) 00:42, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] self-enclosed?

Can someone please explain what "self enclosed aesthetic system" is supposed to mean? --24.85.68.231 (talk) 08:50, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I would expect it's how Barney described the work, but we'd need to find a quote and reference and then label it as such.

Ah, found it:

"Matthew Barney's epic Cremaster cycle (1994-2002) is a

self-enclosed aesthetic system consisting of five feature-length films that

explore the process of creation." "Matthew Barney: The Cremaster Cycle,"

GuggenheimGuide (Exhibitions/Programs, Guggenheim Museum), May-June 2003."

quoted here: http://www.aristos.org/whatart/app-B-II.htm. I don't know if it's

definitive; you find a lot of quotes of this phrase throughout but no clear attribution.Zero sharp (talk) 00:14, 23 April 2008 (UTC)