Talk:The Company of Wolves
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link to the interview with Neil Jordan is broken, got a new one?
This really doesn't seem to be a 'stub' anymore; its more like a 'Start' article at least. Can one just change the ratings above? Or is it customary for a mod to do it? I'm not certain. -- Jayunderscorezero 22:39, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
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- Anyone can change them (and anyone can change them back again...). Cop 633 16:56, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. I just wanted to make sure. -- Jayunderscorezero 22:59, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- Anyone can change them (and anyone can change them back again...). Cop 633 16:56, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm upgrading this to 'B' on both scales, as it now definitely bears more resemblance to the example page for 'B' than the example page for 'Start'. --Jayunderscorezero 12:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Synopsis Needs a Rewrite
First of all, it is far too long, convoluted and over-written for a casual reader to come away with a good idea of what happens in the film. It needs to explain the plot in a far more transparent and cogent fashion.
Secondly, and perhaps more seriously, it is awash with subjective and unsubstantiated interpretation. Such free-ranging conjecture is exactly what the No Original Research policy was designed to limit. The Company of Wolves is certainly a movie that lends itself (quite deliberately) to symbolic interpretation, yes. But you cannot just say 'this represents puberty' or whatever, and you certainly should not place that in the middle of a plot synopsis.
I think two things should be written:
- i) A new, cogent synopsis
- ii) A section alluding to the symbolic richness of the film and the possibilities of multifaceted interpretations, particularly those involving the rite-of-passage and puberty. NOT, however, an exhaustive list of every symbol or sign. Gunstar hero 17:24, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Welcome to Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia that you can edit!! Seriously, if you think there are problems, why not fix them yourself? Or at least have a go, and let others perfect the job? Cop 663 01:39, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
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- I'd certainly be willing to practice what I preach when I have a little more free time. I only thought it may be more appropriate to test the water here before going ahead and re-writing entire sections. I supppose with this being a relatively minor subject people should just go right ahead and edit, though! Gunstar hero 10:28, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
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- I've had a go at cutting down the synopsis, cutting out a lot of the 'analysis' and bits that go on about the symbolism (which is important, but obviously doesn't belong in the initial synopsis). It's now about 2/3 the length of what it was before. Still, it's a difficult synopsis to cut down considerably, as the film is made up of lots of small events and individual stories, so its hard to simply summarise the 'overall' plot succintly. Still, this should be a step in the right direction. --Jayunderscorezero 02:47, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Yes, it's noticeably clearer now. You're right: it is quite a difficult plot to summarise, mainly because of the framed narratives of Granny and Rosaleen's mother. I just find that in a lot of other cases on Wikipedia, particularly when I look at the article of a film I've never seen before but want to get a general idea of, the so-called 'synopsis' is no more than a listing of every scene in the film! I'd say that your latest version is of an acceptable length for a general reader.Gunstar hero 22:37, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Thanks for the positive feedback. Something tells me that the synopsis could still be a little better, but I'm sure that's just my perfectionist streak bugging me. It seems more than acceptable for now. --Jayunderscorezero 04:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] 1987
This film was shown on BBC television on the 6th March 1987 (Images of the Zeebrugge ferry disaster followed straight after...) The BBC described the film as suitable for 'family viewing', for which they got into trouble afterwards, with many complaints (on the BBC's 'Points of view'?). I cannot find anything on the internet about this, so cannot 'verify'.... Licornenoire 20:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- How do you know this? Do you simply have a really good memory, or do you you have any of this on video, taped off of the TV? If you have it on video you should be able to simply cite the program in question and that would be acceptable. --Jayunderscorezero 23:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)