Talk:The Colbert Réport

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[edit] "Réport" or "Report"? The great accent mark controversy

The Comedy Central website doesn't show an 'é' in "Report". Nor have I seen it in any ads for the program. Can documented evidence be provided that the 'é' will be permanently shown instead of just plain 'e'? — Stevie is the man! Talk | Work 18:09, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree that it should be without the é. I've never seen that on the website or the commercials. - Stoph 03:21, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. So are there any objections from anyone to moving this article back to The Colbert Report? — Stevie is the man! Talk | Work 20:44, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Stephen pronounced it as "réport" and I think on the opening it had it the same way. IMDB lists it this way too. So I think it should stay. Jayc 04:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
I also agree that it should be moved back to The Colbert Report. The on screen title seen during the show clearly has a normal, unaccented e. (The IMDb title will soon be changed as well, because they go by what is actually shown on screen.) The presence or lack of an accent isn't determined by Stephen's pronunciation. Jason One 00:44, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, the initial ads for the Réport that ran on the Daily Show, which you can still watch on the Comedy Central Colbert Réport and Daily Show websites, use the accent mark - more than that, the missing accent mark is dramatically inserted by a lightning bolt near the end, seeming to emphasize its importance (as well as its silliness). And the T-shirts in the shop section on the Comedy Central Colbert Réport and Colbert Nation websites show the accent. But the accent is missing from the caption as it often appears on the show itself, so they've been inconsistent so far - so I was planning on waiting a few weeks into the show to see if it continues to make appearances or if it is forgotten.

And, I fear what preposterousness Colbert would wreak on Wikipedia on his show if he got wind that its users were debating whether a diacritical mark is necessary for the name of his show. :) Reaverdrop 06:48, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Plus... consider his use of "ø" in The Wørd - with the diacritic also dramatically inserted after the unadorned "o" appears originally. He's not done with ironically unneeded diacritical marks. Reaverdrop 09:19, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Upon further review, I agree that there is an inconsistency, in that it's pronounced as "Réport" but displayed in the airing show's lettering using an unaccented e. I'm thinking that pronouncing it "Réport" is a temporary stunt that falls in line with "It's French, bitch!" and a direct correlation to O'Lielly continually asserting that France is an enemy of the U.S. (lol) — Stevie is the man! Talk | Work 01:48, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

There's no reason to believe the pronunciation is temporary. It's just a joke -- Stephen can pronounce it the "French" way with or without an accented e. (Why should an accented e determine whether or not the t is silent, anyway? By that reasoning, his last name would have to be spelled Cólbert.) The title of the article should reflect the actual title of the show, and that title (as seen on the show) has a plain, unaccented e. Jason One 19:16, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
The accent does not affect the silent t - although 'report' is not a French word, assuming standard French pronunciation rules, it would be pronounced with a silent t regardless. The accent affects the pronunciation of the e it modifies, making it a softer e than the one usually used for 'report' in English. At any rate, the accent does not appear to be consistently used in the show, and the article should probably be moved to The Colbert Report. Bbatsell 21:23, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, that was my point. The fact that Colbert says it with a silent t is not a valid argument for keeping the accent in the article title. Also, it's not that the accent is used inconsistently in the show -- it's that it's not used at all. In every occurence, the title is always accent-free. Jason One 22:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
The accent mark hasn't appeared on the show itself, but a very oversized accent mark - one that is installed by a lightning bolt at one point, in an unsubtle emphasis - was used in the original preview commercial that ran on the daily show and that is available for viewing on the website. And the official gear for the show that has been depicted on the website since several weeks before the show started, shows the accent mark on the "e". That's what made its use inconsistent. Reaverdrop 08:56, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
But it's not inconsistent in the actual show, which has so far not had even a single occurence of the accent. Both of the examples you mention are from outside of the show, and should have no influence on the name of this article. Jason One 19:25, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
  • The preview, with the huge accent mark that is delivered by a bolt of lightning, is posted for viewing right along with other video segments from the show on the website. This indicates the preview, which had been shown repeatedly during the Daily Show along with one other preview segment for the past year or so, is on par with the post-premiere episodes as part of the "actual" show. So far we have only four episodes of the standalone show to compare with a year or so of frequent showing of the two preview segments, firmly establishing "Réport" as the original spelling, along with the official merchandise which also uses the accent. Many different forms of "Colbert Report" logos have already appeared on the show; and it has introduced a steady stream of new other segments with logoed captions, some also with goofy accent marks (e.g. The Wørd). If you look near the top of this thread, we just proposed to wait a few weeks to see if the accent mark makes another appearance. The Réport is still in the shakeout phase. I'd hate to switch everything to non-accented only to see the accent reappear on the next evening's episode. Just give the show a few weeks to settle in, eh? ~ Reaverdrop 20:20, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Again, the preview is not part of the actual show. TV show and movie titles change all the time from pre-production to the final release. The accent was clearly dropped during this time. The preview carries far less weight than the actual (completely accent-free) show. As for the "official merchandise," note that you can't actually purchase any of those items. They're just a joke. There's no need to wait several weeks -- the accent is not anywhere to be seen in the show, and there's absolutely no reason to believe it will return. Do you really think they're going to redo all the logos throughout the set to add it back? Jason One 19:08, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Colbert Nation

What do people know about Colbert Nation? It says it's unofficial and claims to be written by a man named Avery, but Colbert referenced it twice on tonight's show (Show #2) and it has a letter from him on it and a link to it from comedy central's website. It wouldn't suprise me to know that Colbert does the whole thing himself.

And if your wondering, they are not selling light up pens. At least not when I checked.

The domain is owned and hosted by Comedy Central. I simply assumed it was a joking poke at astroturfing and written by TCR writers. Bbatsell 07:45, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
A few weeks ago, most of the material that's on Colbert Nation now was on the Comedy Central Colbert Réport website - including Colbert's letter naming Avery Gordon as his webmaster, and a blurb from Gordon describing being tapped for the job. So it's safe to say it's official. Reaverdrop 09:02, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

That seems right. Okay, official website it is. Though when I tried voting in the poll during the commercial ("should this man be allowed to immigrate") it just said thank you for your vote before I did anything. I hope they get that fixed, it could be a cool feature of the show. 70.18.242.170 13:05, October 19, 2005

Please remember to sign your posts when making a comment. Also remember the show is tapped, not live. The "poll" was just used as a setup for the joke. Can't exactly poll an audience and display the results on a show before the audience sees said show. ;) Jayc 21:38, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh yeah. I hadn't thought about that. Yeah, you're right. Though they could do a poll at the end of one show and show the results the next day...but it wouldn't be the same. Anyway, I just hope he can keep the show up. It's great, and I hope he can keep it going. As to signing my name, I still haven't registered on wikipedia...I guess I should. Whatever. I'll just do this: --Carl.

[edit] Quotes Page

We should start a page of quotes from the show. Let's start with: "Put some pants on, America, the Truth is knocking at the door."

            --Carl
Nice idea. Done. Reaverdrop 08:57, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] dog on fire v. baby muggles

The show's theme music is "Baby Muggles", recorded by the band Cheap Trick. The song was recorded on October 3rd, and is a faster, rockier version of The Daily Show theme "Dog On Fire", written by Bob Mould and performed by They Might Be Giants. This might have been subtly referenced in a piece on American obesity, which was introduced with the caption "We Might Be Giant".

how is TCR's theme "rockier" that TDS? they are just two different rock songs, one is not a version of the other. the last sentence is superfluous. and who cares what day it was recorded-TMI

[edit] Screenshot request:

We have got to get a screenshot of the screaming eagle filling the screen with talons and beak open wide to devour the viewer, from the end of the intro sequence. Any volunteers? Reaverdrop 10:31, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Truth-y" intro lines

Seeing as how it looks like he's going to start each show with a quote involving "Truth", maybe we should have a running list, like his Word and guest. Maybe add it to the chart we have. Also, the one I just added (Truthocution) is just my best memory of what the quote was.

  • I went ahead and made your suggested change - I was thinking the same thing. Incidentally I removed the long explanation of "Bring Them Back Or Leave Them Dead" from the highlights column of the episode guide - with the columns more constricted, it took up a lot of lines; and longer explanations should be in the body of the article somewhere instead of in the episode guide.

~ ~ Reaverdrop 07:10, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Episode guide

I think having the episode guide is fantastic, but at the rate of four shows per week, the main page is going to get cluttered pretty quickly. Is anyone opposed to moving the episode guide to a separate article, such as The Colbert Réport Episode Guide? (Please make recommendations for other article names if you have any as well.) --bbatsell | « give me a ring » 07:16, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

I've been thinking the same thing since last week - other shows like Star Trek have separate episode guide pages, there's a precedent. It would get unwieldy otherwise.
~ Reaverdrop 07:52, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
If someone does create a separate episode guide, please follow Wikipedia naming conventions regarding capitalization. The correct title should be The Colbert Report episode guide. Jason One 20:31, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Done.
~ Reaverdrop 23:18, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Looks great! Jason One 23:53, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Who is Colbert mocking again?

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it ironic that Colbert's galactic-sized ego is a send-up of no one else - not O'Reilly or Scarborough - so much as the original Daily Show host, Craig Kilborn?

~ Reaverdrop 07:55, 25 October 2005 (UTC)