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Contents 1 Removed text 2 I was there! Hooray! 3 This entry is misleading 4 arena days. 5 Fair use rationale for Image:ClashBonds1981.jpg 6 Questioning artist reference

[edit] Removed text

I removed the following text from the article page as I deem a link to an external auction site item from Wikipedia an inappropriate use:

This bootleg was founded at Yahoo! Autctions - Rare Clash - Live At Bonds CD

RedWolf 03:27, Feb 24, 2004 (UTC)

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The auction was dead anyway.

[edit] I was there! Hooray!

I would love to have a copy of this album. My son and I went to this concert and it was a peak experience for both of us, the warmest, happiest Clash show you can ever imagine. The band was still all friends and we felt like we were their friends too. A great show! The place was huge and half empty thanks to the fire marshall. Ortolan88 20:32, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] This entry is misleading

There's no such Clash bootleg as "live at Bond's Casino" aside from maybe a CDR copy someone once made for a friend.

Bootlegs of this show that do exist (i.e. commercially released and professinally pressed bootlegs) include Bondage At Bonds, Trick Or Treat, and more recently Chaos In New York. One thing that is certain is that none of them were released by Columbia records!

Also, using allmusic as a source isn't very useful as they clearly gleaned all the info from the Black Market Clash website, who worked out this show was really the 9th of June from dated audience recording tapes that correspond with the wrongly dated official soundboard recordings.

Moburma 10:59, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] arena days.

This article is misleading in its references to The Clash's "arena days". While it is correct The Clash did play arenas towards the end of the group, these were either in the support slot for a select number of The Who concerts (Shea Stadium) , or at the US Festival. The Clash never embarked on full scale arena tours , mostly playing theatre and concert hall venues, such as Bonds.211.30.52.219 (talk) 09:48, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:ClashBonds1981.jpg

Image:ClashBonds1981.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Questioning artist reference

In the opening of this article, there is a reference to "New York musicians, including Pearl Harbor." There was a San Francisco band named "Pearl Harbor and The Explosions", fronted by a singer named Pearl E. Gates (legal name change). It was well known that Pearl E. Gates hung out with the Clash, moving to England after Pearl Harbor broke up. After she moved to England, she changed her name to Pearl Harbour, and released a solo album in 1981. Is this a reference to the same person, and should the article be changed to reflect this? (She was defintely not a New York musician.) I have no specific info on Pearl actually taking part in this event. Mediasponge (talk) 00:37, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps google could shed some light on the original author's source? Alcuin (talk) 04:16, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I dug up a reference to the Bonds shows that says it was the same Pearl Harbour (new spelling) who acted as DJ for the shows. Bonds_81-05-28 Mediasponge (talk) 00:48, 19 April 2008 (UTC)