Talk:The Chronicles of Spellborn

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This article was nominated for deletion on 16 December 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

This "article" is inserted as part of a Wikipedia advertising campaign on the part of User:Langeweile, an account created specifically to create "articles" advertising this unreleased game: see Special:Contributions/Langeweile--Wetman (talk) 04:09, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

The article made use of many external, 3rd party sources to provide both noteability as well as crediteability. You might, for example, want to check the mentioned MMORPG.com page - one of the biggest portals for MMORPGs - where Spellborn constantly ranks high in most anticipated games.

I also advise on checking other "advertisement" articles on similar games, which long since exist:

• Warhammer_Online:_Age_of_Reckoning
• Aion_(computer_game)
• Age_of_conan

If you feel unreleased games should not be covered on Wikipedia, that is a legimate plead - but then discuss that general issue at apropriate places and don't just selectively attack certain games.

Langeweile (talk) 04:32, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

You are assuming bad faith with regard to the original author of this article. Whatever his/her motivations, the subject of this article is still in line with Wiki policy. Joshdboz (talk) 13:11, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I am unaware of a Wikipedia policy on "coming attractions". I was assuming absolutely nothing, I merely drew attention to the appearances: that this "article" is inserted as part of a Wikipedia advertising campaign on the part of User:Langeweile, an account created specifically to create "articles" advertising this unreleased game. Perfectly straightforward. The User's edit history speaks for itself. User:Langeweile does not appear to be an authentic "newbie", merely a new account: what you people would call a "sockpuppet". The following section was simply moved verbatim from my Talkpage, where "save your snark" [sic] is wholly inappropriate and uncalled-for. The snarky remark below about any imagined criticism of its username is delusional. My job here, simply flagging this effort, is done. Wikipedians will decide whether or not the article is deleted or re-edited: it's not my call. Over and out. --Wetman (talk) 14:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

The following exchange I have copied from my User talk Wetman (talk) 05:50, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of Spellborn from the Chronicles disambigation page

Why, please, is it inapropriate to add a full fledged Wikipedia article to the disambiguation page ? Just because that certain game isn't released, yet, doesn't invalidate the article.

You might challange the article itself, but I can't see a reason why the article should exist, yet the connected disambiguation not. Mind that many other not-yet-released games equally have lengthy articels, etc...

Langeweile (talk) 03:22, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

What would be the use to the Wikipedia reader of a "disambiguating" link at Chronicle (disambiguation) to a non-existent article— "Spellborn Chronicle"— concerning a supposed forthcoming game, one that "Langeweile" has been logged-in entirely to push? Special:Contributions/Langeweile make the motivation perfectly plain. No reader entering "Chronicle" is expecting to see "Langeweile"'s advertisement for this unrelated product. Clear enough for you? --Wetman (talk) 04:06, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Save your snark.

• Just because you're longer on Wikipedia (for whatever reason) doesn't let you inherently carry more rights than a new user. Nor is my prefered nickname in any way your issue to criticise.
• There was no link into the void, but one to a lengthy article: The Chronicles of Spellborn
• If you still feel I'm pushing or something, go and challenge that article. Good luck...

Langeweile (talk) 04:20, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I shall not be following the outcome of this commercial advertisement any further than this. Note, however that the anonymous IP User:130.89.236.99 is in fact User:Langeweile; their edit histories reveal that they are editing at Wikipedia solely to advertise this upcoming product.--Wetman (talk) 05:50, 16 December 2007 (UTC)