Talk:The Championships, Wimbledon

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[edit] Ball Boys & Ball Girls

I remember watching a mini-documentary on ball boys and ball girls at Wimbledon last year, I thought this article could do with a little section on them? But I cannot think on what to include, any ideas or help? Thanks. --JJMan 12:21, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

  • What about a précis of the material to be found here - [1] Ericoides 20:55, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TV coverage

Any chance of mentioning its travails on US television since HBO had to give up its daytime coverage during the week? --Sephiroth9611 16:09, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Miscellaneous

Any idea who sponsors wimbledon? Slazenger? They seem to have very few endorsements on court. How is that possible?

Does this help you: http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/about/officialsuppliers/index.html DavidB601 21:10, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Where is the doubles?

well i have added the doubles champions however don't know opponets or scores. But this page really needs to be tidied up as it is now very big with results. - fonzy

I think the historical results would be best moved to a separate page, maybe List of Wimbledon champions. matthewmayer

More than that, I think the lists could reasonably be divided up into mens singles, womens singles, mens doubles, womens doubles, and mixed doubles... (with appropriate see alsos on each page for easy navigation) Evercat 23:23 10 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Though admittedly, now that I think of it, that would make it harder to see all the winners from a particular year... Evercat 23:24 10 Jul 2003 (UTC)

The opening sentence "The British Open is an annual lawn tennis tournament also known as Wimbledon" suggests that it is officially called "the British Open" is it? I'venever heard it referred to as this. I don't think the term "British Open" has ever appeared on any official promotional material that I've seen. Mintguy 18:46, 9 Nov 2003 (UTC)~

I went last friday - i'll do some work and add a photo or two after my last A-Level tommorow! -ricjl 19:13, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

"No. 2 Court bears the nickname The Graveyard, since it is here that many seeded players are knocked out." This is a myth not a fact! -ricjl 19:17, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Changed (ricjl 18:36, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC))

Can we get the \/\/ alternative logo in here too? They're often shown together. (ricjl 18:36, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC))

[edit] Roddick 7 Time Winner?

Why does it say that Roddick won the title 7 times? I think it should be Sampras. Someone might want to change that :)

[edit] Military / Services Personnel

Wimbledon traditionally has uniformed Military personnel acting as stewards in addition to a Police presence. This seems pretty unique in UK sporting events, but I have no idea why it is the case. I can't find anything on the official Wimbledon site. Does anbody know how this came about? --Bryces 18:09, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

I should think that heightened security at Wimbledon is a result of the 07/07 Islamist terrorist attacks on the London Transport networks. With so many people visiting and with so much going on, as well as the space being so crowded, Wimbledon would be a key target for any terrorist operating within the borders of the mainland United Kingdom. Although you may not know it, most major tournaments have some kind of severe protection, particularly within the United Kingdom. Several vans of riot police are always on standby whenever there is a football match that could be particularly antagonistic on. The Olympics in 2012 and the UEFA championships in 2009 will also warrant higher-order protection from the UK security services, particularly MI5. You're probably safer within a major sporting event in the UK than you are walking the street. --JavaJawaUK 21:20, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I've been going to Wimbledon annually for the past 10 years and can confirm that the police/services presence has always been high. What has changed is the level of security checking on entrance to the grounds since 11th September 2001 and 7th July 2005.

According to [2], service volunteers on leave have been used to provide crowd management since 1946. Drc79 09:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Borgs 5 consecutive

Always mentioned by commentators as one of the greatest feat, but not on the list of records. Why? Should Borgs strike be labelled most consecutive wins since Wimbledon became international (if that's the case) or most consecutive wins in the last 100 years?

Surely the records table should mention it is the last 100 years, or in the Open Era or something, since William Renshaw got 6 in a row in the 1880s. He can't just be wiped from the records because of the era he played in. Ben davison 13:15, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fixed some stuff

I took out the stupid "trivia" section. Anyone with a brain should be able to guess the movie wimbledon is about wimbledon. I also changed the prize money into dollars next to the pounds.

[edit] Money

There is some problem with the conversions to US$.

Currency values change. For example, Jan 2006 and £1 was worth between $1.55 and $1.75. Now in Jan 07, the £1 hovers consistently near the $2.00 mark. There are always fluctuations in currency, especially when they are not tied down to an RSS feed.--JavaJawaUK 21:13, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Attendance figures ?

I am looking for the 2006 attendance aggregate but can't find it. Any chance of adding a history of attendance to this article ? --Rulesfan 03:47, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dates

How about putting in the actual dates, not just 'every June and July'? blucat AT optusnet.com.au

The dates are very rarely the same, as it always starts on a Monday. I have change it with respect to this. --81.178.69.196 12:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I have changed the edit made by 192.63.62.252 to include at least the <ref> to the dates link. I think this is a good compromise, between being clunky and accurate. --81.179.123.35 12:31, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Senior Tournament Accurate?

Does the tournament still have both a 35 and over AND a 45 and over gentlemen's doubles tournment? I don't see any reference to more than one "senior" tournment on the official website this year.

[edit] Champions section

I am not sure about this section. It contains a lot of slang and POV. It is also very Brit-centric and could do with a general tidy. I may give it a go. Nda98 07:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3rd fastest?

Is this true? I know that speed is reduced to what it used to be, but I believe it is still fastest of Slams. And I've looked at statistics which may be seen as indirect proof of what I'm saying. At WTAworld one of the users made comparison of Slams and here are results for combined 1st and 2nd round (all of this was to begin with taken from official sites of Slams):

    Return games won:               WTA  40.24% RG 07, 39.43% AO 08, 38.51% AO 07, 35.34% USO 07, 31.53% Wim 07
                                    ATP  24.03% AO 07, 23.78% RG 07, 23.46% AO 08, 21.93% USO 07, 17.31% Wim 07
    Server points won:              WTA  54.37% AO 08, 54.56% RG 07, 54.75% AO 07, 56.43% USO 07, 58.06% Wim 07
                                    ATP  61.86% RG 07, 61.98% AO 08, 62.20% AO 07, 63.32% USO 07, 65.61% Wim 07
    Aces (out of total points):     WTA  02.49% RG 07, 02.67% AO 08, 03.25% AO 07, 03.55% USO 07, 04.05% Wim 07
                                    ATP  05.25% RG 07, 06.58% AO 08, 08.28% USO 07, 08.53% AO 07, 08.59% Wim 07

Legend: RG 07 is Roland Garros 2007 (Red Clay), AO 08 is Australian Open 2008 (Plexicushion), AO 07 is Australian open 2007 (Rebound Ace), USO 07 is US Open 2007 (DecoTurf), and Wim 07 is, of course Wimbledon 2007 (grass). Also WTA is for women and ATP is for men. Anyone with knowledge of tennis can see that Wimbledon's grass is the fastest. Aces are easier hit on faster surface, server will win more points on faster surface and returner will win fewer games on faster surface. So where did someone get the information that Wimbledon is now slower than USO and AO, when in fact as one can see new AO surface is almost as slow as red clay. By speed of surface from this statistics they go like RG 07, AO 08, AO 07, USO 07, Wim 07. Requiem mn (talk) 21:31, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Serve and Volley

While wimbledon is still probably the fastest grand slam, the courts are now not that conductive to serve-volley play. you tend to see more net play at the USO and AO then WMBDN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.31.50.47 (talk) 14:42, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Avoid personal and nebulous comments

Quite a bit of the article relies on personal observations and nebulous comments.

For example, "The tournament duration is subject to extensions for rain." Well, that's pretty much true of any tennis tournament. So what? Perhaps it would have been better stated as, "The tournament tends to be interrupted by rain.", which, admittedly, is also a "so what?". But, if it's followed by a chart or similar indicating years where it was significantly delayed by rain (i.e., entire days were missed), at least it would prove the author's point.

Another example, under "Champions": "Among the four major titles, Wimbledon is the one that generates the most anxiety for the British." That's a personal observation, for which there is no scientific evidence. I'm not saying it isn't true, but it doesn't belong in an encylopedic entry.

And don't get me started on the lack of punctuation! (e.g., "In 1875 lawn tennis" should read "In 1875, lawn tennis")

There are more, but I'm getting lazy in my old age!

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Skaizun (talk • contribs) 21:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)