Talk:The Caves of Steel
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Last sentence: anyone have a better, i.e. less idiomatic or colloquial, phrase than "screen time"? (This is after all a novel, not a film). Ed Cormany 04:18 21 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Thank you, Evan, for fixing this up. Nice work. Ed Cormany 23:34 25 Jul 2003 (UTC)
below break is older talk
moving comment from article:
(I assume the allusion to the biblical Moses is intentional)
"The book's central crime is a murder. Citing his own squeamishness (and John Campbell's advice of beginning as late in the story as possible), the victim dies before the novel opens."
His, I assume, refers to Asimov. Could this be made clearer?
Acegikmo1 06:10, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Spoiler.
Should the "Spoiler" tag be further down. No plot is revealed by the "setting" portion.
In general, I don't read past a "spoiler" tag because I don't want to be told plots; that's why I read the book. But it would be nice to have as much background information as possible before the spoiler. The worlds created by sf writers are really a separate point from the plots. I hate to see an entry which has the spoiler box near the top; it implies the entry is nothing more than a book report, rather than a work of scholarship. Also: should anything else follow the plot - because I don't go there?
Does anyone agree?
- I generally consider the spoiler tag to apply to the section (usually "Plot" or "Summary") in which it is placed. This way, I know it's safe to read sections like "Publication details". To that end, I'm moving the spoiler tag. (The Setting section, I think, doesn't give out much more than dust jacket material or Asimov's own autobiographical anecdotes—and he certainly wasn't worried about those hurting sales. . . .)
- Anville 18:35, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Film?
A few days ago, if I remember correctly it was said that there was a film to be made of the book. Was I just seeing what I wanted, or did I miss it, or is it incorrect? The Modern Prometheus 01:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Interpretations of the material
There are several places in the article where factual content gives way to interpretation. Such as the following, which seems to be more appropriate for a section regarding the novels themes:
- "One interesting aspect of the book is the contrast between Elijah, the human detective, and Daneel, the humanoid robot. Asimov uses the "mechanical" robot to inquire about human nature. When confronting a "Medievalist" who fears that robots will overcome humankind, Baley argues that robots are inherently deficient. Being precision-engineered calculating machines, they can have no appreciation of art, beauty, or God; robots can only understand concepts expressible in mathematics. However, in the concluding scene, R. Daneel exhibits a sense of morality. He argues that the captured murderer be treated leniently, telling his human companions that he now realizes the destruction of evil is less desirable than the conversion of evil into good. Quoting the Pericope Adulteræ, Daneel tells the murderer, "Go, and sin no more!"
And:
- "In the novel's final paragraphs, R. Daneel becomes a Christ figure."
This seems out of place and may not be agreed upon by all readers. At the very least I do not believe it belongs in the plot summary. Perhaps another section should be added for interpretations or speculations on the book.--Thehighseer23 19:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
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