Talk:The Casbah Coffee Club

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[edit] The Club

I have started this article as it needed starting. --andreasegde (talk) 17:05, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Very nice work. I've given it a tweak too. --kingboyk (talk) 02:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article review

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    The lead is unsourced. Also, this part needs to be verified: The Casbah has now been opened as a tourist attraction in Liverpool, along with McCartney and Lennon's previous homes.
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail: [[Image:|15px]]

I've put this article on hold. Leave a note on the talkpage when the problems have been rectified. Davnel03 09:47, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the review. I have always been told that the Lead isn't sourced as it is an overview of the whole article, meaning anything in it must be in the article, and not have "redundant citations". I have sourced and expanded the tourist attraction sentence. --andreasegde (talk) 10:43, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I've also just noticed that not one reference is formatted properly. You need to format it using the Cite web template for web references. Davnel03 11:25, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I think I've done them all (and I found the CNN page that was referenced twice :) --andreasegde (talk) 12:06, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
P.S., I have left the book references as I once had two articles go for FA, and no mention was made of the book citations. Both articles failed BTW, and one, Mimi Smith was failed because she wasn't notable enough. I have the suspicious feeling The Casbah might suffer the same fate. Ho-hum... :) --andreasegde (talk) 12:11, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Hang on here, in my opinion, notability is clearly established. :)
There's a few things to do with the referencing that need doing. As with it being a GA (soon!), you need to have every detail from the source possible. I've made an example diff HERE. Right before, you simple had:

However, the CNN source provides details of:

  • When it was written
  • Who wrote it
  • The exact title name (the name provided before of the title in the article was not the same name in the CNN article, you must have the same title - you cannot change it.

I've gone and added it for the CNN source as an example, but you need to do this for every ref. For some refs, the data may not be avaiable, and you can just therefore leave it. I apologise if I did not make this clearer earlier, but you really need every detail about the source possible. Cheers, Davnel03 12:19, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I've done it. Good grief, I've saved the template on Winword, because I don't want to do that again. :)) --andreasegde (talk) 13:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


GA review (see here for criteria)

This is a nice piece of work, but it still has some shortcomings with respect to the good article criteria.

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Congratulations! Davnel03 13:48, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I thank you kindly, Sir. --andreasegde (talk) 13:59, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Coordinates

The club is in West Derby, Liverpool, and not Maghull.--212.241.67.98 (talk) 16:41, 17 April 2008 (UTC)