Talk:The Bubble Boy (Seinfeld episode)

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just created a basic outline. needs more work. User:Kane5187

[edit] Notability

B.Wolterding tagged this article for "notability concerns - this article is mainly a plot summary" on 22 March. I have removed the tag because the content limitations of the article (all plot, little depth) are irrelevant to the notability of the subject matter. When you consider that there is a Seinfeld Wikiproject, which itself has not been challenged for notability, then the notability of episode pages is beyond question. If the episode pages are not notable, then you need to challenge the validity of the Wikiproject altogether. Darcyj (talk) 08:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

• The guideline WP:N applies to article topics, not to WikiProjects. Since the article does not show that multiple independent sources have written about this particular episode, I still think it fails the guideline. Rather than sourced information, the article contains (as I said) mainly a plot summary, cf. WP:NOT#PLOT. Whether a WikiProject exists or not is irrelevant in that respect - anybody can found or join a project, and they don't override Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. --B. Wolterding (talk) 12:26, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

• Fair comments, and perhaps (therefore) there needs to be an extension of WP:N to projects. Since writing my comments above, I also discovered Wikipedia:Television episodes and read the notability guidelines more closely. My new question would be: How do you cite independent sources if their transient nature (eg, commentary in newspaper entertainment supplements) means that those sources are now (a) difficult to track down, and (b) almost impossible to verify because hard copies of the source are rare? In respect of this particular subject - The Bubble Boy - I am fairly certain I have seen reviews and commentary in TV guides, weekend magazines, etc etc, but I'm buggered if I can remember a date or edition number; nevertheless, it would be the case that every Seinfeld episode has been covered in this way, even if briefly. A research effort of herculean proportions would be needed to identify primary source material for every episode, even though everyone knows that the episode exists and is familiar with its features and characteristics. Thoughts? Darcyj (talk) 08:55, 17 April 2008 (UTC)