Talk:The Boys in the Band (play)
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Actually depictions of gay men and lesbians started a bit earlier then this play, in the off off broadway (cafe theatre, underground theatre, coffehouse house theatre of the 1960's) most notable at Caffe Cino, 31 Cornelia Street. See the book Caffe Cino: The Birthplace of Off Off Broadway by Wendell Stone
[edit] Broadway or off-Broadway?
Did the play actually appear on Broadway? if not references to Broadway need to be deleted and if so more information on the Broadway run should be added. Otto4711 01:10, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Rerated article class
This article is unreferenced, mostly a summary, POV and unencyclopedic. I see that somebody rated it as A class, it got changed (rightly, to me) to Start class, then to B and now back to start by myself. Please review the assessment guidelines for more information and why this seems better as start than B. Please check the examples given for each class for further illustration. Jeffpw 14:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Sorry, but this article definitely is more than Start Class. It includes a detailed plot summary, some background about the playwright, and production history. Furthermore, it's referenced by the external link to the Lortel Archives. Based on my interpretation of what constitutes B-class, this qualifies. SFTVLGUY2 17:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- I guess we see things quite differently, then. However, if you look at the The Boys in the Band|article about the film, you'll see it is of comparable length, and includes a paragraph about critical reaction, yet is rated as a Stub for film articles, and a Start for LGBT articles. For the purposes of the LGBT Project, this is a Start class article. Two people from the project have come to this conclusion indepedently of each other. I note that you are not a member. If you would like to join, please feel free; but to change the ratings on our tags seems a bit inappropriate to me. Jeffpw 20:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- I upgrade tags all the time without regard to which WikiProjects I am a member of (that is, none). I wouldn't make an issue of who can do what. But, regarding this article specifically, I think it is helpful to compare it to other B-class articles and see where it belongs. Just go over to Category:B-Class LGBT articles and start picking articles at random. Look at the difference in level of detail. This article is definitely more than Stub class. It looks like Start class to me. Compare some of the contents of Category:Start-Class LGBT articles. — coelacan — 21:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- I have changed the rating back to start. Nothing at all is cited. To me that is enough to keep it out of B-class. [BTW, I agree with Coelacan that whether someone has officially joined a project or not is beside the point.]Aleta 21:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- I upgrade tags all the time without regard to which WikiProjects I am a member of (that is, none). I wouldn't make an issue of who can do what. But, regarding this article specifically, I think it is helpful to compare it to other B-class articles and see where it belongs. Just go over to Category:B-Class LGBT articles and start picking articles at random. Look at the difference in level of detail. This article is definitely more than Stub class. It looks like Start class to me. Compare some of the contents of Category:Start-Class LGBT articles. — coelacan — 21:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- I guess we see things quite differently, then. However, if you look at the The Boys in the Band|article about the film, you'll see it is of comparable length, and includes a paragraph about critical reaction, yet is rated as a Stub for film articles, and a Start for LGBT articles. For the purposes of the LGBT Project, this is a Start class article. Two people from the project have come to this conclusion indepedently of each other. I note that you are not a member. If you would like to join, please feel free; but to change the ratings on our tags seems a bit inappropriate to me. Jeffpw 20:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, but this article definitely is more than Start Class. It includes a detailed plot summary, some background about the playwright, and production history. Furthermore, it's referenced by the external link to the Lortel Archives. Based on my interpretation of what constitutes B-class, this qualifies. SFTVLGUY2 17:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
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To me it seems obviously a 'Start' article. It could be improved in a number of ways, for starters a large portion of the article is dominated by explanations of the characters and a very short summary of their profiles, whereas if this were a true B class such things might have their own section. Hardly any of the article is devoted to the true meaning/plot of the story and it's short in length (which admittedly isn't always relevant, but it is here). Mentality 21:29, 24 March 2007 (UTC) [1]
Moved comment here for benefit of other readers. — coelacan — 21:36, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Citations
It is not necessary to add multiple citations leading to the same source within an article if an external link listed at the bottom accomplishes the same thing. Additionally, given the era in which it was produced for the first time, there is no need to add a citation "proving" that this play was not geared towards mainstream audiences. SFTVLGUY2 13:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- Putting the citations within the text is more informative of what information can actually be found in the page. It is more specific. Aleta 21:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
