Talk:The Black Cauldron (film)

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[edit] The meaning of censorship

Isn't "censorship" a bit strong in this particular case? I can understand the desire to emphasize that the intent of the film's creators was compromised by business interests, but insofar as censorship is usually something imposed by an outside insitution (usually the government or the church) for security or moral purposes, I'd say that this should more properly be characterized as a conflict of editorial interests.

I only mention this because the article as it stands takes the strong POV that these cuts were imposed on the filmmakers only after the film was completed, which I find hard to believe. I would imagine that some conflict was obvious even during the planning stage, that the filmmakers knew which scenes were candidates for deletion, and that management, too, decided to view the completed film before ordering the deletion of what they felt was questionanable content. That, of course, is speculation on my part.

Anyway, it's an interesting subject and I wish the article contained a more detailed explanation of the actual process in which these decisions were made.

Spventi 22:33, 26 April 2006 (UTC)



Cutting out completed scenes in an animated motion picture is very rare due to the enormous amount of time spent working on such projects. Usually, if a scene is omitted, it is done during the pencil test or storyboard phase. Removing finished scenes out of "The Black Cauldron" was made by Disney executives over the objections of the films animators, which does constitute a form of censorship, as it weakened the creative staff's sense of autonomy.

[edit] Broken Link

"Another scene cut featured a man being dissolved by mist. [1](http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/2677/cuttbc.gif)" This link no longer seems to work. Is there any version of this animation somewhere else? Rapidflash 04:59, 3 July 2006

  • Hi, I haven't seen this movie but, I added that link because I thought it would help the article. The link is actually a link to an image located at a fan site hosted by GeoCities (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/2677/). The website mentioned that it was a scan of an animation cel that was on sale on eBay [1]. That was the only place I ever saw it. Meyow 20:59, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Actually, the link appears to be working now...ew! I'll add it back to the article. Meyow 21:00, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
  • The link is dead. Unfortunately I have yet to find another image of the scene. Tippiegh 20:59, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tinkerbell?

In the trivia section, the article claims that Tinkerbell makes a cameo appearance, but I did not see her in the Fairfolk segment at all. Can anyone confirm this? Zekintha 03:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Unless this image is doctored… Well, there she is. :P —OneofThem(talk)(contribs) 15:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] computer game adaptation of the film

probably worth mentioning this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Cauldron_%28video_game%29) somewhere Pseudo Intellectual (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:21, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Black Cauldron theatrical release history

Aside from the original release date, are there any sources to verify the dates? Especially the one that is supposed to occur this coming August. Also this information is in direct contradiction of the information presented at the beginning of the film legacy section. --Polar33 (talk) 16:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)