Talk:The Bhoys from Seville

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[edit] Relevence and possible merging

Surely this article could be mearged with an article on the uefa cup of that year or into a celtic history one. It seems slightly needless and fanistic to have a separate article based solely on a self pronounced nickname, barely used even among Celtic fans

No, I think this should stay as a seperate article, it represents a different part of the fanbase. Nol888(Talk)(Review me please) 02:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Seems slightly odd to have this information placed in multiple places based on a nickname, info can also be found on the uefa cup page and the celtic history page (as well as the celtic main page) It might be a suggestion to merge this with the history page adding a reference to the nickname within the main body of text or as a header.

Moreover the article needs serious attention anyway as it contains unvarified sources and personal opinion.

The Bhoys from Seville is the only nickname I know them by. I don't think there were any other names --202.47.49.216 10:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Travel from Glas-going to Seville

Can anyone find a source for the fact that on the day of the game, Glasgow to Seville flights accounted for 10% of international air travel? (or something) Astrotrain 16:15, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Try Google!--Vintagekits 16:16, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I think there are something like 3 million air travellers a day (according to Ntional geographic) which would amke soemthing like 300,000 people, a ludicrous figure as it would imply approx a thousand flights, which is about one every 90 seconds. Siounds like Celtic propaganda to me, SqueakBox 19:17, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Actually you're showing your POV here Squeak - where is this in the article or where is any Celtic source claiming this?--Vintagekits 13:07, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bhoys

Thisn is not a word in the English language and the article neds to move to a title that includes solely English words. If it survives its afd I am happy to move it, SqueakBox 18:38, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Its supposed to be spelt like that!--Vintagekits 18:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
See - Glengarry Bhoys, Danny Bhoy, Charlie and The Bhoys.--Vintagekits 18:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I think a less tabloid name should be used- perhaps Celtic FC 2003 UEFA Cup Campaign? Astrotrain 18:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Maybe we should change the Lisbon Lions to [[Celtic FC 1967 European Cup Campaign?--Vintagekits 18:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
If the bhoys remains it should at least be explained what it means, and in the opening. I was looking for this, SqueakBox 19:09, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes, an explantion of Bhoys would be appropiate. I do not think this is an appropiate name as the article is about the whole campaign, and surley this name was only applied for the final? Lisbon Lions article is about the team not the campaign. Astrotrain 19:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Well I would be happy with your suggestion to rename to Celtic FC 2003 UEFA Cup Campaign. Does anyone else object? SqueakBox 19:26, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
considering we have over 100 registered supporters clubs in north america and can get 25k or more to a game in the US. The name bhoys matters to a lot of people. conservatively there are 5 million Celtic supporters worldwide. check out various cletic sites and find out for yourself such as www.nafcsc.comMaplecelt 04:11, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
A renaming doesnt make sense because the artile isnt about the 2002/3 campaign.--Vintagekits 13:06, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
What do you mean "it isn't about the 2002/03 campaign"? It obviously is! - PeeJay 11:55, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

The seven successive references in the lead section is a little much. We're not going for nine-in-a-row, I hope. - Dudesleeper · Talk 18:39, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

WATP wants them to justify that the BfS where being compared and contrasted with the LL.--Vintagekits 18:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
considering we have over 100 registered supporters clubs in north america and can get 25k or more to a game in the US. The name bhoys matters to a lot of people. conservatively there are 5 million Celtic supporters worldwide.Maplecelt 04:11, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Totally agree with Maplecelt.--Vintagekits 13:05, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DVD cover

The image is currently being used in breach of fair use. I've already removed it once. Would someone else mind doing it this time? --John 19:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

  • the image is being used under fair use and can be used in the articleMaplecelt 13:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
  • No it can't as the article is not about this DVD. Please remove. Astrotrain 13:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
  • I've now removed it three times, something I hate to do, but we cannot use this image unless the article discusses it. As it does not at present, I will continue to remove it. --John 14:49, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
  • The dvd cover is used under fair use and complies with that - and the dvd is discussed in the article. Yours instance on pushing the term British into the Celtic article, trying to get Torbett into it and trying to delete Celtic's highest moment in 30 years really removes your mask.--Vintagekits 14:52, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
We could only use the image under fair use if we were talking about the dvd itself in the article and even then the dvd image would have to be placed beside the text about the dvd. The version Vintage is reverting to is clearly not fair use, and if it gets put on the article again the image will have to be speedied (as it isnt anywhere else), SqueakBox 21:01, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I have restored the image beside the text about dvds where I believe it is fair use, SqueakBox 21:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

There is absolutely no point in this article at all, I feel it should be merged with 2003 UEFA Cup Final, as almost all of the article can be transported there were it will be relevant, NapHit 14:03, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Appearance

Jackie McNamara is said to have played in the article but there is not mention of who he substituted for. 13:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

He went on for Paul Lambert 14:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)