Talk:The Allman Brothers Band

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[edit] Thank you

Thank you Wikipedia. I write to add to the excellent Allman Brothers Band article. Until reading it, I was never aware of the intimate relationship between the Allman Brothers and Sea Level. I've been reveling in the innovative album “Cats on the Coast” since high school. Wore out the vinyl and happily purchased the digitally remastered CD. Any Allman Brothers fan who also enjoys contemporary jazz (not that ‘smooth jazz’ packaged pabulum) will find “Cats on the Coast” to be an essential addition to their collection. If you find a copy – buy it! 17:02, 1 June 2003 12.237.98.92

[edit] Duane and Berry

The story that Duane and Berry died at the same corner is widespread. It is also wrong. According to the official Allman Brothers site, under "People/Chronology of the Allman Brothers Band", Berry Oakley's motorcycle accident was "only blocks from where Duane's happened". I'll put the page back the way it was, along with a note that the common story is wrong. Noel 23:10, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for straightening that out, Noel, I've been wrong for years. - Hephaestos 23:15, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
No problem. I had the same misapprehension for years too! FWIW, apparently Duane's collision was at the intersection of Hillcrest and Bartlett (the Allman Bros site confirms that), and Berry's was "near the intersection of Napier Avenue near Inverness Street".
It turns out the story about it being a peach truck is wrong too. I guess I should put a note about that in here too? Noel 23:24, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
It probably should all go in, if only to dispel rumor; I don't think it should have a high priority in the article but I'm at a loss at the moment as to how to tone that part down a bit.
I lived in Macon for five years and thought at least the locals would have the story straight, but I guess not. *grin* Two separate people pointed out Forsyth and Zebulon to me as the place where both were killed (maybe to scare me, as I drove through there every day on the way to work). - Hephaestos 23:28, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
I think I know how to handle the EaP rumor thing without clogging up the ABB page. Take a look in a few minutes.... Noel 00:30, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Good idea, thanks again  :) - Hephaestos 01:35, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)

[edit] notability of Georgia Allman Brothers Band Association?

A user has been edit-warring for deleting this entry:

from the disambiguation page Gabba, arguing that it's not notable enough to ever have a Wikipedia article, and thus to be listed as a redlink on a dab page.

You can provide information (positive or negative) about it at the discussion page Talk:Gabba so as to help sort it out.

Thanks,

-- 62.147.112.36 14:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jimmy Carter

Could someone add some information about the band's manager, Phil Walden (who also ran Capricorn Records and had previously managed Otis Redding) as well as his connections to Jimmy Carter and the failing financial fortunes of the band in the late 1970s? I believe it was a fairly major issue in their personal and artistic lives. Thanks!

[edit] Members List

Could someone help in fixing the members section of the article. It has been tagged as "require restructuring" since November of this year.

I went and re did the formatting. I added sub headings fort each instrument and listed band members in chronological order. My only real hiccup was for Gregg, as whoever did the original list i assumed put the instruments in order of how much they were used by the player. And Gregg had vocals listed for his first thing and guitar as his last but since i didn't want to do a redundant vocal section i just listed him under Guitar. DyloniusFunk 18:58, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I moved Gregg Allman to the piano/keyboard subsection of the members list. While he does play guitar, he is primarily known for his singing and organ play in ABB. KitHutch 19:28, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks to the person who fixed the Lineup section by year.

Added a "non-official/Live/Studio" members section203.111.236.48 11:58, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article about the music

Anyone here interested in helping to add an article about the allman's music (Influence, styles, etc.)? Since the ABB covers many genres of music, this would be helpful. 121.1.51.190 15:33, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Lead guitar

Who became lead guitarist after Duane died? Was it Dicky Betts, or somebody else? Cubs Fan 01:23, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Dickey Betts was one of two lead guitarists in the Duane era. After Duane died, he was the only lead guitarist. Since their reformation in 1989, they have had Warren Haynes, Derek Trucks, Jimmy Herring, and Jack Pearsons on lead guitar. KitHutch 20:35, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Know the Song?

I have a song on my iTunes just called "Blues Jam". It's 11:22 long and was recorded on 12/31/73. Can any Allman Brothers Band fans name it? --In Defense of the Artist 23:43, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Any lyrics?121.1.51.190 11:15, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Genre

Can we agree on a definite list of genres for the band? I mean, are they really that much Jazz Fusion and psychedelic rock?Silas619 11:21, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

At AllMusic.com the bio reads that the first album was "a solid blues-rock album" and that they are remarkably consistant changing only gradually in 30 years and now "they sound more country than they did in their early days." Country... now aren't we calling that "roots rock" ...but not to be confused with Bob Marley's "roots rock." The article leads with "The band's mix of blues, country, jazz, and even classical influences, and their powerful, extended on-stage jamming altered the standards of concert performance..." Good luck securing genre these days, especially now that we have jamband. I suspect it is the jambanders that will want "jazz fusion" and "psychedelic rock" to stick. Even "jamband" is in question for the Allman Brothers as Butch Trucks has quoted Greg Allman as recently as 2003 in saying that rather than being a jamband, the Allman Brothers "are a band that jams." Butch Trucks is a self-described jambander however. The band themselves do not agree on genre. - Steve3849 talk 12:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I am somewhat skeptical of describing the band as "psychedelic rock". However, I think that many of the songs are undeniably driven by elements of jazz, and "jazz fusion" is appropriate as one of many of The Allman Brothers Band's most prominent genres of music- especially in their earlier days before Duane's death. These are a few of the songs which I believe exemplify Jazz Fusion: "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed," "Les Brers in A Minor," "Mountain Jam," "Revival," "Whipping Post (opens in 11/8 time)," "Little Martha," and "Dreams". Many of these songs use complex time signatures as well as Jazz-like song structures and extensive use of blue notes and swung notes. -AllmanvishnuO 00:51, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not from Macon

The Allman Brothers Band was not from Georgia (much less Macon, Georgia), nor were any of its original members. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnskeller (talk • contribs) 12:30, 22 January 2008 (UTC)