Talk:The Age of Decadence

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[edit] Tactical role-playing game?

Would you consider AoD a Tactical role-playing game? If not, please remove the game from the category. SharkD 17:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I removed it from the category. SharkD 22:53, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Oooops, thought I did that but I had only removed it from turn-based tactics. My mistake. -- Solberg 23:32, 19 May 2007 (UTC)Solberg
"Removing turn-based tactics because it doesn't seem to be the main focus"
The second item listed in the game's feature list is turn-based, tactical combat. Therefore, I think the game's genre should reflect this. SharkD 00:38, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that. However, there is a difference between a game having tactics, and being a turn-based tactics game. Considering especially that AoD is not party-based, I would not be sure if it could be considered turn-based tactics. Perhaps you could ask VD what genres he considers the game. -- Solberg 01:36, 20 May 2007 (UTC)Solberg
On second thought, I agree. Nevermind. SharkD 03:45, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Isometric

This game is not isometric. It should not be listed as such. SharkD 22:53, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't know, it's listed as isometric by most websites I've examined eg [1] [2] [3] and iirc the creator has referred to it as isometric before. However this might have been only with respect to the initial version of the game. -- Solberg 23:32, 19 May 2007 (UTC)Solberg
I started a thread in the AoD discussion forum. We're waiting for the developer to change the website. SharkD 00:33, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Hrrrm. There seems to be strong resistence against the idea. The wait may be a long one. SharkD 01:16, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
BTW, early iterations of the game were isometric. That is, before they switched to 3D. SharkD 16:55, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes, it's as I already noted. Do you want to call the game "3/4 top down" as a poster suggested? Btw, I'm not sure a gallery is a good idea. Virtually no other game pages have galleries. It's a bad idea because you can always link to pages dedicated specifically to this purpose. Putting it on Wikipedia is kind of pointless. On the other hand, the picture currently uploaded could make a useful thumbnail next to the introduction. Thoughts? -- Solberg 09:59, 4 June 2007 (UTC)Solberg
"3/4 top down" is pretty close, except I'm not sure whether the camera is rotatable in AoD (like in Silent Storm). "Pseudo-isometric" should be fine, as the perspective AoD uses does resemble isometric perspective. Definition: "[The word "Pseudo"] also identifies something as superficially resembling the original subject; a pseudopod resembles a foot, and pseudorandom numbers simulate numbers generated by truly random events, but are in fact produced by an algorithm."
Though there are other instances of articles about video games that contain galleries of screenshots, I prefer it when images are placed within some sort of context. Since the article is so short, there's nowhere to squeeze them in. But, go ahead and remove the gallery if you think it's inappropriate.SharkD 01:31, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I posted the question on what policy exists regarding image galleries to the videogames wikiproject. Not much of a response so far. Unless I get any directions otherwise, I guess there is no harm leaving the gallery for now. Presumably once the game is released there can be more shots, carefully selected (any regular bunch of images would be inappropriate IMHO, since then we could direct it to IGN etc) to be illustrative of various unique features and aspects of the game. -- Solberg 06:05, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Solberg

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[edit] Vandalism

Maybe the article should be semi-protected? The game seems to have a large and enthusiastic fanbase who want to 'improve' the article. SharkD 16:32, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

It seems my comments are being vandalized, as well. To vandal: just because my favorite game is Oblivion (as well as its vastly superior sequel, Oblivion), doesn't mean it has any bearing on this discussion. SharkD 02:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article Lacks NPOV

"The Age of Decadence promises to bring players back to the Golden Age of computer RPGs" - this is not proper for my vision of a wikipedia article. Second paragraph is described primarily in an in-world style as well. The creator of the game is well-known for his personally vindictive attacks on games and on me personally, that do not conform to his backwards POS vision of gaming from the neolithic - see the Rock Paper Shotgun interview linked at the bottom of the article. It's hard to believe that this sentence wasn't written by someone promoting similar views. Edited for my own version of neutrality.66.26.82.58 (talk) 14:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I think your bias against the game dev is distorting your reading a bit. "X promises to bring Y" is not an endorsement. NPOV applies to interpretation of the whole sentence, not an arbitrary piece you choose. "George Bush promised to bring taxes under control" would not be a violation of NPOV even though there is an implicit opinion that taxation needs to be controlled, because the policy applies to whether or not Dubya actually said it, not whether or not he actually brought taxes under control or whether they need to be brought under control at all. That said, I have left "golden age" out because in retrospect there are in fact 2 periods (1985-1993; 1997-2001) commonly referred to as golden ages in CRPGs (see for example the Gamasutra article on the 1st age), and it's not clear that the dev himself would necessarily say he wanted to return to that age, but rather borrow inspiration from specific games that epitomized that period (eg Fallout for the 2nd golden age). -- Solberg (talk) 05:13, 7 February 2008 (UTC)Solberg