Talk:The Adventures of Pinocchio

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[edit] plot

would be great if the actual content of Pinocchio could be added by someone who read it. Phelixxx 09:13, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

And better still to understand the psychological drive behind such a tale [1]. —Cesar Tort 22:54, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge Pinocchio (Shrek)

I'd prefer to keep this article about the novel and original character - there must be hundreds (thousands?) of derivative pinocchio's. -- Stbalbach 15:47, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

That's actually why I'd prefer to merge them. I'd rather have a footnote to the original article to acknowledge derivative characters than have a whole WP entry for every one of them. -- Tim Pierce 16:54, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Typically with classic novels that have many derivatives, there is a separate section or article listing the derivatives (*XYZ in popular culture.."), and each of those derivatives can also optionally have its own article. See Frankenstein or Dracula for example. This article is about the novel, not Shrek, so if Pinocchio (Shrek) should be merged, it should be merged to Shrek. However, there is also nothing wrong with separate articles for characters, so I suspect the Shrek people will also say its fine to keep it as a separate article. Long story short, Pinocchio (Shrek) is probably fine un-merged as it is, with a link to it from this articles "popular culture" section. -- Stbalbach 15:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
That is a very good point -- thanks for explaining it that way. I agree and will bring it up with the Shrek crowd, even though you're probably right that they will feel similarly. :-) Tim Pierce 21:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
An alternative would be to separate Pinocchio (novel) from Pinocchio the character, focusing on the story and supporting characters in the former, and the character (in all his variations) in the latter. It's working pretty well so far for Peter Pan, or The Boy Who Wouldn't Grow Up and Peter Pan. - JasonAQuest (talk) 22:32, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Can We Change Tits to Breasts?

The prototipe of this creature is a little girl without tits and with long nose called Kreete Peedo .

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.75.69.179 (talk) 20:35, 14 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Derivative works

I found the list of derivative works had become rather cluttered, with full-scale adaptations of the original story mixed up with places where one or more characters from the story inspire some aspect of another work altogether (see also the discussion above about derivative characters). To try to clear this up, I've made a section called Adaptations for works that, to a greater or lesser extent, actually render some significant part of the original story in a new form (films, operas, translations/retellings). Then I've made a subsection for Derivative works to include various character-based spin-offs where Pinocchio is still the principal theme ('Pinocchio in outer space', and the like), and another subsection for Other references to Pinocchio in popular culture for all the places where some tangential reference is made (eg, Pinocchio appearing in the 'Shrek' films, computer game characters references, manga, etc). I hope this helps with clarity. I am not sure which section every reference belongs in, so I've done my best but one or two may need moving if appropriate. Mooncow (talk) 00:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tuscan

I see that there are pronunciation guides in English and Italian. Should Florentine ones be added? The Italian text is peppered with Florentine terms so it would be natural to pronounce it alla Fiorentina. --Error (talk) 11:30, 17 May 2008 (UTC)