User talk:ThatBajoranGuy

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Hello, ThatBajoranGuy, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! --Rockero 20:59, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I no longer recall which article it was, but it is likely that it was the LA article, since it is on my watchlist. You're right, it should be a featured article. I'm glad you feel like "one of the community" now. If you really want to feel like a Wikipedian, you should make yourself a userpage. Consider it practice for creating an article from scratch (wink wink). There is a tendency among Wikipedians to dismiss outright edits made by an editor whose name appears in red. Prejudicial, maybe, but it ties into issues of seniority and trustworthiness. If you need anything, don't hesitate to ask.--Rockero 15:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Looks nice! Only I thought "Tinseltown" referred just to Hollywood, not all of L.A.?--Rockero 13:48, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page deletion

I saw your note on White (people). Wikipedia procedures are obscure, complicated, and ever-changing, and there are special policies governing page deletion (Wikipedia:Deletion policy). Admins can only "speedy" delete pages for about 20 clearly-defined reasons such as being blank or full of nonsense, and even then its mostly for brand-new articles only. Anyone can nominate an article for deletion (WP:AfD) which starts a discussion that usually focuses on whether the topic is notable. Notability is often established through things like Google hits, availability of sources, and comparison to similar topics. An AfD is also a popularity contest in which the side with enough contributors prevails. With regard to White (people), this means that an admin may not speedy delete the article, that you yourself could "AfD" it, but that there's very little chance it would be deleted there. Since it is almost impossible to remove I urge you to get involved in improving it. Many hands make light work. Cheers, -Will Beback 08:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Articles like this one, despite their references, do sometimes get deleted. But another outcome of an AfD for a troubled article is greater attention by more editors. I've posted a request at talk:Race for other editors to look in on it. We'll see. -Will Beback 15:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hooliganism

The usual response by Wikipedia editors to Hooliganism is to paint the WP colors of white and grey on their bodies and kick ass. Maybe this time we should take a more restrained approach. A good first question is, "what reliable sources do we have"? Everything else flows from there. Cheers, -Will Beback 09:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] V.I. Warshawski

Glad to say hi to a Wikipedian and a V.I. fan (though I don't admit to liking star-trek in case people think I am a geek;) I have just edited your V.I. Warshawski#Biography entry. I was re-reading Toxic Shock (published as Blood Shot in the US - which I once bought by mistake here in the UK thinking it was a different novel), and discovered, from the first two chapters, biographical dates which differ yours. I hope you don't mind my going ahead and making corrections without consulting you first. Nevertheless, I was excited to read of your ambitions to write wiki-pages on all her novels. I have a terrible memory, and having grown fond of Sara Paretsky's obstinate, feisty character, her friends, relatives, colleagues, enemies, and the Windy City where she lives and works, it would be good to relive - in potted format - her many adventures. Part of my attraction is in being able to learn more of her back story with each successive novel. Have read her latest novel? I reckon it to be her best yet.--84.92.127.242 19:05, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the note. I have indeed read "Fire Sale", and while I also enjoyed it greatly, I think the political overtones of "Blacklist" appealed to me greatly, and I can see why it won an award in the UK.

If you have noted a discrepency with dates, by all means correct it -- but I have noticed (though I have not yet catalogued all instances) some discrepencies between earlier and later novels; for instance, Darraugh Graham used to be 'Daraugh' in a couple of early novels, and then he gained an R. In the later novels, Ms. Paretsky was much more on top of keeping her facts in order, but it could also be I just misread/misremembered something.

Wikipedia articles belong to everyone; I would have had no objections whether you had asked me first or not. ;) If you cite where you found your data (for instance, which book), that'd help a lot. I do know where I got that information -- "Grace Notes", from the "Windy City Blues" collection, so I'll have to cite it. I think the dates you found and the dates I found may contradict slightly, but for the reasons I stated above, I'm not too surprised. Such things definitely do not detract from the overall superior quality of Paretsky's novels.ThatBajoranGuy 19:11, 15 August 2006 (UTC)