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[edit] "Progress of Liberty"

The phrase is in itself POV. I had removed it before and replaced it with "moves to abolish slavery". I don't see why it was reverted, both phrases imply the same thing but the latter does it minus the POV.--Jersey Devil 06:37, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

It is not POV to tell what politicians thought using their own words. Rjensen 06:49, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Please, be civil. Any other opinions on this?--Jersey Devil 07:53, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't see any incivility on this Talk page yet. Don't jump the gun. :) However, I agree with Jersey Devil in this case — if "progress of liberty" is Stevens' phrase, it should definitely be there, but in quotation marks (and preferably with a reference to the source). However, I don't see any online record of Stevens' ever using that particular phrase, so I see no reason at the moment to assume those were "his own words." I say, remove it.

However, the wording "moves to abolish slavery" is a bit blunt and loses the main nuance of the phrase — that Stevens believed that the abolition of slavery was a moral necessity. So I have not reverted Rjensen's phrasing, nor "quoted" it (since it's not a quote); I'm just noting that it does have a POV. --Quuxplusone 01:15, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

The term "progress of liberty is Jefferson. Stevens used the term "genius of liberty" and "gospel of liberty" so it should be changed Rjensen 01:23, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of one sentence

I've taken out the following sentence because I don't know what it means, it is bizarre, and incomplete.

At another time, while delivering a speech to the Senate and noticing one of his opponents entering the chambers, paused and stated that he would wait for the Senator from <state> to slink to his chair and stick to it only by the ooze coming out of his body.

skywriter 06:01, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

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THE GREAT COMMONER

As a great admirer of both Thaddeus Stevens and William Jennings Bryan I removed the reference to Stevens as the Great Commoner as it is common knowledge among the historically literate that that sobriquet was most uniquely applied to Bryan.-Tom Cod