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I derived electropropulsion for Wikipedia as defined in Lyne, Willian R., 1999, "Pentagon Aliens", Creatopia Productions, Lamy, New Mexico 87540

He takes Tesla's discovery of solid aether for levitation and uses his patents and physics to show the reality of electropropulsion.

It's not original to me, Teslafieldmachine, or Mr. Lyne its a fact for 100 years.

Please note:

Why no study of Tesla's aether? Making the aether solid was a big thing.

Well cause it sounds like ether the chemical. No.

Cause making the aether solid was Tesla talk for levitation.

Oops, and this has been misconstrued into thinking there is hidden energy when it just the electron doing its thing.

Stay away from ZPR malarkey except for some turbines and some atomic processes.

An old Tesla experiment:(from William Lyne's "Pentagon Aliens")

Other than to state that Merrington had witnessed "...metallic plate suspensions..." by Tesla (using high voltage, high frequency currents), the details of the FBI's complete interview of Merrington have not been disclosed, which brings us to the question, "Why not? What more could Merrington have confirmed with her 1894 observation, that the FBI and US government don't want us to know, 106 years later?" But we know from books and publishings by or about Tesla from that time period, that each of those plates were solid zinc, 1/8" x 12" square, which if formed into a solid bar of metal, 1" square, would be 18" long, weighing several pounds

Back to me: Did Tesla continue to make space 'solid' and be able to move around by electrical means as fast as the ufos of today?

The Physics:

Spark gap is an air Capacitor driven to dielectric breakdown at say 50,000 vDC pulse. It makes a vectored E field pulse.

Levitation or propulsion Force = i X B

i, current radiated = Capacitance x voltage pulse/ pulse duration = 1 microfarad x 50,000 / microsecond B, or ac coil current = 15kvac/ coil inductance

Force is now 750,000,000/ coil (L) inductance newtons (.225 pounds/newton) 160,000,000 pounds (US short ton/2000 pounds)/ L of coil 80,000 tons/ 2 Henry

40,000 tons of levitation or propulsion at the proposed levels. I did mention the coil inductor mentioned in many of Tesla's patents, that will give a B field in all directions. Just set the E field pulse for direction.

Is it any more original than the anti-gravity devices on Wikipedia? Well its original Tesla just explained to many in Mr. Lyne's book and my summary on Wikipedia. Please let me know of you ruling after this explanation. I did not check my email but I am sure I gave permimssion to administrator to contact me for these rulings.

I just started the entry in line with this intro: In pseudophysics, electro-gravitic propulsion refers to claims made at certain websites regarding supposed devices http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro-gravitic_propulsion Which is the same in speculation. The full post: Electro-gravitic propulsion From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search In pseudophysics, electro-gravitic propulsion refers to claims made at certain websites regarding supposed devices which could be used to drive a spacecraft. Some websites which promulgate these claims sometimes include the additional claims that UFOs are alien spacecraft and are operated by such alleged devices.

Such claims are generally regarded by professional research physicists as highly suspicious, and there is no generally accepted theory which would encourage the belief that any such devices are physically realizable.

My edited post, I'm not wiki editor savy to make a beautiful presentation but it was fun:

Electropropulsion From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search

Electropropulsion, in pseudophysics, refers to claims made at certain websites regarding supposed devices which could be used to drive a spacecraft. Some websites which promulgate these claims sometimes include the additional claims that UFOs are alien spacecraft and are operated by such alleged devices. It is claimed to be sought at the turn of the twentieth century by Tesla. I hereby speculate that it does exist, just as the anti-gravity speculation does, without seeing proof. The following is speculation with a bit of electrical physics.

The many patents Tesla put forth in his lifetime and existed during the period between WWI and WWII have left some to speculate the levitation and motion has been achieved and is held in secrecy.(1)(2)(3)

The achievement of electrical forces to levitate an object is only now speculation that an enclosed metal craft with circulating currents will SUSPEND ITSELF. Force between currents is known and a pulsed E field will create a flow of charges inside a metal craft to be held there and continue to flow as the high voltage high frequency source generates. These free flowing electrons will interact with a floor mounted flat wound or pancake coil shown in many of the patents of Tesla.

Force being generated by the product of current and magnetic field, F = i X B, as a vector cross product.

The idea of a metal sphere or craft doing this required a small power source which Tesla also patented as an engine for a helicopter, so devised as to avoid the torque correction and the craft from spinning due to engine motion. Also a globe with external appendage would lose charge and current.

Liquid oxygen or Atomic Weight 16 or below gases that recycle and that are not consumed as fuel are a speculation as well as pure electrical isotope power. However the one man Foo globe or orb may be the very first electric flight vehicle.

The flat or pancake coil will generate a magnetic field, B, in the plane of the coil. The E field current must be perpendicular to induce force on the coil conductors. The B field will be radial in all directions but in one plane due to the physical characteristic of a flat coil. An E field must be generated for each motion direction. DC pulsing causes E field current vector in one direction. Floor to roof pulses will give forward motion while front to back pulses cause a force to counter gravity and thus levitate the craft. Gravity force down, electrical force up.

Tantamount to pulling oneself up by his own bootstraps may not fit well with many. The use of high voltage and frequency may induce a work function effect such as taught for vacuum tubes and transistors . Perhaps its quarter wave interference between the E and B currents. Just how much voltage for the E field spark gap and flat coil current has not been determined.

It might take the form of Force = (Capacitance of air dielectric (spark gap)) x (gap voltage) x ( N x coil primary voltage) / ( flat coil Inductance) the combination of units that must equal Force are volts x volts x capacitance / inductance. This levitation force must equal the weight of the craft, so look for a few tons so we can fly a submarine. But remember a cylindrical coil will not do under this arrangement.

However the force equation F = i x B is valid and we are working with i an B generation concepts. Could this be done. I think so. I leave it to other people to say why many of us do not think so.

1. Lyne, Willian R., 1999, "Pentagon Aliens", Creatopia Productions, Lamy, New Mexico 87540 2. Lyne William R., 1997 & 1998, "OCCULT ETHER PHYSICS: Tesla's Hidden Space Propulsion System And The Conspiracy To Conceal It", Creatopia Productons, Lamy, New Mexico 87548 3. Stevens, Henry, 2003, "HITLERS FLYING SAUCERS A Guide To German Flying Discs Of The Second World War", Adventures Unlimited Press, Kempton,Illinois 60946

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electropropulsion"

Removed as a hoax and speculation too great: The many patents Tesla put forth in his lifetime and existed during the period between WWI and WWII have left some to speculate the levitation and motion has been achieved and is held in secrecy.(1)(2)(3) All the above talk by Teslafieldmachine Teslafieldmachine 19:05, 27 June 2006 (UTC) http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US00512340__ http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US06271614__ http://www.delphion.com/details?pn10=US06029438 The plasma thruster, you mean lightning from a spark, is power to drive or is it current forced against a magnetic field.Teslafieldmachine 14:48, 19 September 2006 (UTC) Update Feb19,2008: From review of discussions with Tesla researcher Mr. Lyne the existence of electrical momentum in air or gases effects an electrically rigid and mobile state, as per Tesla himself, is the key to UFO suspension and mobility. The horizontal flat coil antenna at the bottom of every UFO craft makes waves of an electrically rigid sea, like a rock dropped on a pond. The voltage level and frequency that this occurs is not specified. Thus the UFO sails on an ocean of electrically rigid gases. As a result of high ionization of the gases around the UFO, a dark violet may not be observable to the human eye and only show up in photos, helped by the associated UV radiation. A wake of ions will repel one another and spread apart and will not crash together to make a sonic boom at any supersonic speed. Perhaps the answer to why there is no sonic boom to high flying UFOs and to why photos see objects that people say were not there. That also a good HOAX ploy, its not there when I took the photo, yeah put in it in later. In other words, the UFO is a free energy device employing 'dark matter' (formerly ether)in which electrical entities such as atoms oxygen and nitrogen and other electrical matter. Liquid air itself may be in this category as its use in the Tesla generator as the power plant to the latter Electro-U-boats suggests. Thanks again to the research of Mr. Lyne and hope the above is in agreement with his findings.Teslafieldmachine (talk) 21:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)