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[edit] Patent nonsense

I'm not sure if linking to Wikipedia:Patent nonsense is the best choice here since that page expressly describes a bunch of things as not being patent nonsense, but some of which probably deserve a warning like this (without necessarily escalating to test3). DopefishJustin (・∀・) 21:02, May 20, 2005 (UTC)

I also agree that the patent nonsense link is not the best choice for this message—it means that for most vandals the warnings should progress straight from the relatively tame {{test}} to the pretty stern {{test3}}. I think that having something in between these two warnings is good, but most vandalism doesn't fall into the category of patent nonsense as described by Wikipedia:Patent nonsense. JeremyA 03:41, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Crap! Now I have to revert that! 68.39.174.238 05:22, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Using these templates to track vandals

It would be very useful if the addition of {{test}}, etc. were automatically to put the User in a category of "Vandals to be tracked", so as to generate a list of these people. What happens often enough is that the warnings are ineffectual.

I tried doing this, on the model of {{stub}}, but it doesn't seem to work, maybe because these are User Talk pages that {{test}} is applied to. Is this worth pursuing?

I'm posting this here as well to get maximum visibility, but please centralize responses to the Test Template Talk page.Bill 13:20, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Header

I added the header Test warn 2 to make the test distinguishable from other text on the discussion page, as well as a count for easy reference of the last {{test}} used. ∞Who ?¿? 04:20, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

It makes it look like the header is part of the article, causing what just happened, me to click "edit" and end up editing the whole template. I don't think this is useful. Maybe if it included a subst. --Golbez 05:46, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

I'm trying a hard line and bold text for seperation. Example:

Test warn 2

∞Who ?¿? 05:56, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Changed the numbering to "type of warning". See talk on Test4 talk. ∞Who ?¿? 19:04, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

I would prefer not to have a header built into this template so that I have the option of adding one myself. I often use it with a header naming the page that was changed, so that it's not just standing out there without context on a shared ip page. FreplySpang (talk) 19:07, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

FreplySpang's example:

[edit] Your changes to Foo

Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.

Good example. I originally had sub-headings, but found out very quickly that if you click the header edit, you are editing the template and not the user talk page, which has happened. I would say that we propose that addition to the template, but they are all used and not subst, so there will be a lot of {{{1}}} all over the place. I think that it would be a good addition however. The main thing is the seperation, about 50% of the time, I add test and have to go back and edit it becuase it blends in with all the other text. Most anon's do not have enough discussion to have headers, so all the notes blend together. I personally make it a habit to add headers to my normal discussion, but a {{test}} tag is usually done in a hurry. ∞Who ?¿? 19:30, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Oops, sorry. The example didn't really show the point I was trying to make. I'd rather just have the template text be "Please stop adding.... Thank you." so that I can decide which heading level works best on the talk page. I do think it's a problem that the test templates tend to get lost on anon talk pages. There's enough variation, though, that I think the person posting the test message has to take the extra moment to decide what kind of heading, horizontal line, etc. is needed. FreplySpang (talk) 21:01, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

No, I appologize, your example made sense, I just didn't say it the way I meant. I understand that it would interfere with adding a custom header, but thought maybe someone could have a userfied version of the template for that purpose. I know mine could have been userfied, but since they aren't subst, with the hr, you could goto a page that currently has them and easily see the different test messages used. It's ok though, it seems there is a dislike to the hr in general, so if it's removed thats fine. I left more notes on Template talk:Test3 on this. Thanks for your input. ∞Who ?¿? 21:19, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Headers revisted

This is a continuation of my previous proposal. Some users liked the hard line and/or sub-header, others didn't. There was also the bold headings. I feel I explained the reasons for adding these clearly, however some users use their own version of these templates and complained that adding a header would only mess it up. The main problem is the majority of users do not add a header or line, and do not use subst. The following is an example of what a lot of these anon talk pages look like:

[edit] Example 1

Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been removed. Please use Wikipedia:Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles will be removed quickly. Please see the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. day 1

Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. day 1

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. day 1

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. day 1

Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. day 2

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. day 2

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. day 2

You have been temporarily blocked from editing for vandalism of Wikipedia. If you wish to make useful contributions, you are welcome to come back after the block expires. day 2

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. day 3

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. day 3

You have been temporarily blocked from editing for vandalism of Wikipedia. If you wish to make useful contributions, you are welcome to come back after the block expires. day 3

[edit] End Example 1

This is riducously messy and can easily be solved with a variety of proposed additions to the templates:

Option 1: Add the hr or wiki equivalent ---- to the top of the template. This will not create the easy section-editing link, however, {{test}} can still be used with or w/o subst. And still clearly divides the entries.

Option 2: Use sub-headings, with subst so that it doesn't create an Edit link that edits the template. If used w/o subst, and the edit link is used, it will edit the template. Ex: ==Warning==

Note with this option, the headings will have to have names everyone can agree on, I gave an example list on Test4. Also everyone would have to use {{subst:test}}.

Option 3: Use the hr with a bold heading. Same results as example 2, but with heading, see Example 4

Feel free to add more options.

[edit] Example 2 with hr