Talk:Tertiary education in Australia

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[edit] NPOV

There's a great deal of opinion sprinkled throughout this otherwise very informative article. Could you please re-write it to try to give it more of a neutral Point Of View? Thanks, Clicketyclack 11:14, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Caps in headings

Please don't capitalize all the words in the section headings, apart from proper nouns. Have a look at the Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings) for more info.

[edit] NPOV cont'd

Also, please have a read of Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, as there is still a great deal of POV in the article, for example:

  • would everyone agree that "the method by which fees were re-introduced proved to be a fair and equitable system"?
  • does no-one disagree that the unified system was introduced "Largely as a result of political pressure (particularly from various institutes of technology who perceived their position to be second-tier) and Government expediency..."?
  • "All universities are degree factories," one university chief admits to Four Corners. "One way or another, they’re a degree mill." The uni chief asserts that to a mainstream news program: that's interesting, and may be true, but doesn't constitute proof of the POV.
  • the Melbourne study made a recommendation, and it's being asserted here as fact: "The Melbourne Institute Study highlights the fact (emphasis mine) that a number of the current universities are simply too small to perform at an international level and do not have critical mass to support more than a few disciplines." Is that view of the facts universally held? It may well be a valid POV, but it's a POV nonetheless.
  • etc...

The article is good, but it's not a WP article yet- it's more of a magazine article, so I've restored the NPOV tag for now. Thanks, Clicketyclack 12:39, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


Still tons of POV in here, and much of what appears to be original research, with very many unreferenced assertions: please have a read of Wikipedia:No original research, and Wikipedia:Citing sources. I've added citation tags for the ones I've noticed, and restoring the NPOV tag at the top.
Since this is a general article about the Aus. Uni. system, rather than a history or a critique, I'm making the history parts into sub-sections of History. Also attempted to move the criticism into its own section, though there's still a great deal of criticism throughout the article: NPOV re-writes might help address that. Thanks, Clicketyclack 10:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)