Talk:Territorial designation
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[edit] Varifiable?
Is this statement verifiable?
"if a peerage title in the format "Baron X of Y" is wanted, the full territorial designation must be used. Thus if the Barony of Stanley of Alderley were created at the moment, it would have to be Baron Stanley of Alderley, of Alderley in the County of Chester."
Baron Lee of Trafford of Bowdon in the County of Cheshire and Baron Taylor of Holbeach of South Holland in the County of Lincolnshire both created 2006 come to mind as obviously not fitting that pattern assuming I have their details correct Alci12 15:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- The point of the sentence is that the "of" in the title (if any) and the "of" in the t.d. are not the same thing and therefore neither can (in current practice) be omitted even if they happen to be the same. Forms such as you cite have always been possible, but they do not give rise to the haplographic temptation. Well now, how shall the sentence be reworded to avoid the false interpretation that Alci12 points out? —Tamfang 16:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] WP:HV
Is this article really within the scope of the heraldry and vexillology project? If it is based on the small role played by Lord Lyon, then surely the papal orders are. Thoughts?--Eva bd 22:38, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- This article was in Category:Heraldry at one point, which is why it was tagged. It was removed from this category a couple of weeks ago, for not relating to heraldry, as you point out. I've removed the WP:HV banner. Dr pda 13:58, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] How chosen?
It would be useful to explain how the territorial designations are chosen, both in the past and today. The victory titles are obvious, but what about the others? Do they simply denote where the peer lives or owns land? --Jfruh (talk) 17:35, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
I think I once read that HM The Queen even allows one to chose ones own TD. Sadly, I am not sure where I read this, or I would have added it. More information is def. needed! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.56.139.73 (talk) 17:21, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
