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[edit] Missing Model

What should be done about the future Terminator model portrayed by Franco Columbu in the "future flashback" dream of Kyle Reese in the first movie? If we follow the Cameron use nomenclature, it would be presumably to be an 800/850 series (same or similar endoskeleton structure) with a different model number (i.e. looks like Franco Columbu not Schwarzenegger). So what should we do? Lestatdelc (talk) 04:31, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Additional Models

Would it be a good idea to cover terminator models from the expanded universe, like the T-70 from T2 3D and the I-950 from T2: Infiltrator? Soon, we'll be adding at least two more terminator models, the Summer Glau fast attack boat and the Owain Yeoman heavy gun ship. ColdFusion650 02:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Why not? CABAL 12:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
I went ahead and added the two new Terminator models from The Sarah Conner Chronicles this morning since the show is out in the wild now. Joe McCullough | (talk) 19:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
I am noticing folk adding the various models of the Terminators without bothering to cite them. This isn't going to work. We cannot include the model numbers without citation, as there is too much difference with fans, and we should seek to avoid the inevitable edit war. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 05:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

They haven't said what models they are. We don't include them. Simple really. One exception is if you would like to use my nicknames from the first post in this discussion. ColdFusion650 (talk) 22:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Interesting that you've described them in that way. Is it possible that Terminators are designed with "class" in mind? They're supposed to infiltrate and then destroy. The TX and Cameron are both small, nimble and wily, yet are seemingly more dangerous than any of the "Heavier" types. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tapok (talk • contribs) 20:27, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I've added no-wiki instructions to the effect that uncited model numbers will get reverted, so don't waste your time. I would have liked to add something about botch-slapping the repeat offenders, but I think that would be too much. I am sure ColdFusion sure felt like working the slapping machine, though. Good job at keeping the wolf at bay, CF!. :) - Arcayne (cast a spell) 19:56, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Most of the people who are doing it are anonymous editors. That means that they are probably unaware of the rules for inclusion, and just think that we can take their word for it. They also probably don't check the edit summaries to see that it has been removed several times and think that they are geniuses who know more about the show than we do. It's not really malicious, so I don't mind. ColdFusion650 (talk) 20:32, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

What is the deal with the question marks? Cameron is a TOK715 according to Fox. Fox makes the series. Period. http://www.fox.com/terminator/images/posters/large/TSCC_21_lg.jpg. Stop screwing around and get it straight. I'm not going to do it myself because I see it's in a pointless god complex war. Kubrick114 (talk) 18:16, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Useful source

[edit] T-600

I updated this row and also fixed the columns in the table to be straight, hope no one minds. Also, there is a picture of a T-600 on fox's website if anyone wants to deal with the fair use rational stuff.Kennstinson (talk) 20:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

You kinda need to deal with that fair use rationale stuff before you add it, Kennstinson.See my comments below regading seeking consensus before editing in significant changes to the article. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 18:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

The reason I didn't add it is because I haven't dealt with the fair use stuffKennstinson (talk) 17:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Just a quick one guys, I dont know much about updating wikipedia, but I thought someone might want to add a pic of the t-600 series. I believe this series can be seen in the Sarah Connor Chronicles episode entitled Dungeons & Dragons. In the future, Derek Reese is captured and rides in a prisoner transport vehicle accompanied by a terminator with obviously rubber like skin. It has also sustained heavy damage to that part of its skin visable, as well as wearing rubber gloves, or having rubber like skin on its hands. This terminator is later seen a gain in the place where the prisoners are kept chained to the floor. This terminator fits with Kyle Reece's description of them from the first movie, and it also makes sense that these terminators, deemed ineffectual at masquerading as humans, would be re-employed in roles where that would not be required, such as prison guards. It would also explain why such a large level of damage to the terminators features would not require repair or "healing". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.35.120 (talk) 11:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] T-888

I was just trying to point out that Cromartie is not the only T-888. If you disagree, feel free to edit. But at least leave the columns straight.Kennstinson (talk) 17:16, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

You need to seek consensus to do that, my friend. And Cromartie's worn more than just a few disguises and at least two faces thus far. I am not saying he's the only one, but you need to verify that all of the others are in fact T-888's, since we only know that Cromartie and the one following Reese's brother are T-888s (because we have been specifically told that). - Arcayne (cast a spell) 18:29, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Uh, OK, What's people's consensus on this?Kennstinson (talk) 17:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

We have a source for Cromartie being a T-888. We have a source for that bald terminator that Cameron killed being a T-888. All others are not proven. ColdFusion650 (talk) 23:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cromartie in TSCC.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Terminators not listed

  • T-800 something from Kyle's flashback in T1
  • T-888 Carter with Coltan
  • T-888 Vick Chamberlain who developed the LA Traffic Control System
  • dream Terminator of Sarah Connor's in T:TSCC
  • combat chassises from T2 future scenes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.55.84.89 (talk) 08:24, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
The Future Terminator (as it is called in the credits), Carter, and Vick (who did not develop a traffic control system) are relatively minor characters. We know nothing about the Future Terminator or Carter, and the only thing we know about Vick is that he is a T-888. The Terminator from Sarah's dream does not exist. It was a dream. The endoskeletons from future scenes are incredibly minor characters. We know absolutely nothing about them except that they are terminators. They really don't deserve a place on the page. ColdFusion650 (talk) 14:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

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