Talk:Ten Tors
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I've put a cross-link to the Four Inns Walk held in Derbyshire at Easter, though this a competitive 1-day outing, and is usually tackled by Rover Scouts and teams of club runners and strong walkers. 80.177.213.144 13:34, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Rewrite
It struck me that this page seemed to be both a little vague and somewhat outdated, so I've made the edits detailed below:
I have added a sentence to the first paragraph defining the general geographic scope from which entrants are drawn. I have added details of the number of routes to the second paragraph, changed "captain" to "team leader", which is what it is called in the rules, removed the reference to a navigator, which is incorrect, and added the age limits. I have added to the third paragraph a reference to the importance of navigation to the event. Along with some minor changes to the fourth paragraph, I have removed the passage about cryptosporidium: teams currently have to collect water from the moor, and have done since 2003, at least. I have broadly rewritten the fifth paragraph to give a more accurate indication of the timings and conditions for awarding of the medal. I have added the name of the Jubilee Challenge to the eigth paragraph. I have corrected the out-of-date link to the official website.
Hope this is all okay.
sjcollier 18:20, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Have just added a list of manned tors: please feel free to remove this is you feel it's superfluous, though hopefully I'll get pages up for a couple of these tors in the next few weeks (see Talk:Tor). Also done a few minor rearrangements. sjcollier 22:52, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Another Author's Additions
I've just added a few minor details, nothing much - I hope this is okay with the original author. I made referance to the year I completed the 35 mile challenge, where the Ten Tors vetrans came back. I stated that they'd dropped out - which I am 90% sure they did (unfortunately for them). However, if this is incorrect, I appologise profusely. Acra 21:01, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks! The more the merrier - please feel free to contribute. Hope you don't mind me tidying up a few things (I'm trying not to be too territorial over this article...):
- The story of the 1960s veterans is nice; something I'd not heard of. I think it'a best not to say whether they dropped out or not until we know for certain - I'll try to do a bit of research.
- I think "thorough" is probably a better description of scuiteneering than "extensive" (though "tedious" would also be appropriate, if a little unencyclopadedic)
- Also thanks to whoever moved the "Death Valley" paragraph over. I've repositioned it and tried to make it clear where (I think) it's referring to. sjcollier 00:03, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
I found that the team (or at least part of it) did drop out that year, but I think it is probably better respectfully to leave that out of the article. Just wondering what your connection with Ten Tors is? Myself, I have walked both 35 and 45 miles, and as of this year have walked 55 miles (the fastest 'Z' route round since internet recordings of the event) and will walk again next year. Acra 21:01, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
...nicknamed 'Death Valley' as five separate sets of human bones, showing signs of trauma were found at the bottom. This is news to me: I have only experienced teams calling the valley 'Death Valley' because of it's steepness and is always a necessary crossing on the event... I know for a fact that a liberator bomber crashed there, and have found the wreckage opposite Black-a-tor copse. --Acra
I think there should be more information about how strict the scuiteneering is and how long it takes! Also a bit about how the teams have a card they have to get stamped at each tor, and how this enables relatives and family to track the teams on the website. It should also be added that it is not just the army that run the event. RAF & Navy man the tors, (when i did it the RAF had the west side of the moor and the navy the east. Also the sea-king helicopters present are both Navy (not sure if the lynx is army or navy). Also i may have so pictures that can be used, i check later --Yini3
Another other author's contribution
Generaly the sea kings are navy "junglies" on account of their green colour which I believe normally work with the royal marines. I've not seen lynxes flying at ten tors in the last 12 yewars or so but one or two army gazelles do operate in a liason role and on one occassion at least provided med-evac from an awkward slope that was not sea-kingable. A photograph of the casualty site is on this page (2nd photgraph) http://www.dartmoor-rescue.org/. The figure second from left is holding a day-smoke flare to indicate the considerable wind speed/direction awaiting the Gazelle's arrival. on landing into the slope the Gazelle's rotors were only a few feet off the ground at the front of the disc!
I also would question the accuracy that teams were still on the hill on Monday in 1996. My recollection is that all teams were accounted for by 19.00 ish on Sunday evening.KL
Westland sea kings used at ten tors are of this type Sea King HC.4 Commando assault, utility transport version for the Royal Navy and is still in service with 845, 846 and 848 squadrons based at RNAS Yeovilton. The Sea King HC.Mk 4 is capable of transporting 28 fully equipped troops. (Also referred to as Westland Commando). Gazelle's are army air corp jobs from Middle Wallop, some years have been flown by Territorial Army pilots. If it cannot be verified that teams were out until monday in '96 I will remove that section in 10 days time. KL 08-08-2007
[edit] Hoax?
As referred to above - I've removed this piece One infamous training location is the section of the West Okement valley that divides Amicombe Hill and Kitty Tor to the south-west from High Willhays and Yes Tor to the north-east, and which has been nicknamed 'Death Valley' as five separate sets of human bones, showing signs of trauma were found at the bottom. as to me it is a hoax. It really should not go back in within some respected sourcing. --Herby talk to me 09:54, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
