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This page lost its history when somebody moved it from Temple Bar: as I understand it, if he / she had used the "Move this page" function, the history would have been preserved; but instead he/she simply cut and pasted the text between the two pages. Does anybody know how to get back the history? (It is currently stored under Temple Bar). Thanks Doops 17:43, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

Fixed - Hephaestos|§ 17:50, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

Thanks -- but unfortunately, you brought over two post-move edits from Temple Bar. Basically, of the three edits by that anonymous poster, the first was the move, and the two subsequent ones were tweaks to his/her NEW page; so they didn't need to get brought across. Thanks Doops 20:54, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

P.S. I looked at some other pages which had been moved, and while their history was brought across successfully, I couldn't find any reference, at the point of moving itself, to the old and new addresses of the page. (This seems like part of the page's "history" too, in a sense.) Am I just overlooking something? Doops 20:54, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure there's no way to get the snippets you refer to out of the history, it's an artifact of the improper move (although it's still possible to to a proper diff by adding the version numbers to the URL manually). Some could have been left out but I thought we should keep the edits by Decumanus, Itai, and 212. Likewise there's no real "moved from" indicator (yet anyway) but the old article shows a "moved to" in its history. - Hephaestos|§ 21:07, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

OK, I'm really confused. At first I thought you used some special administrator privileges to move the history over. But then, after looking at the Temple Bar history, I discovered that it looks there as though you just copied and pasted the Temple Bar London text in, then moved the whole thingummy over, thus simulating what should have done in the first place. (At that point I felt silly for not doing it myself.) But then, on the third hand, looking at the Temple Bar London history, I realized that you got the updates from Decumanus and Itai (etc) in the history -- which wouldn't have occured if you had just used the simulated method I just described (so I stopped feeling so silly). So now, once again, it seems to me that you used administrator privileges of one kind or another.

But to summarize: you've successfully merged two pages' histories, which has the virtue of including all edits to the current Temple Bar London text, the ones which occurred at both its old and new addresses. However, two items of history which properly belong to the current Temple Bar article (namely the posts of 06:37, 18 May 2004 by 82.161.63.185; and 06:35, 18 May 2004 also by 82.161.63.185) are unfortunately listed as history on the wrong page; and, from the history of Temple Bar, it looks like it was you (and not 82.161.63.185) who created the disambig page. Which is the most trivial loss to history ever, I suppose. :) And at least it's documented here on this talk page. Doops 21:41, 19 May 2004 (UTC)