Talk:Tempera
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[edit] Recipe Misleading
I cannot believe that an article about tempera painting would not include the word "translucent"! This word is carefully defined in an important, if older, book about tempera painting, "The Practice of Tempera Painting", by Daniel Thompson at Yale.
[edit] Recipe Misleading
It's a poor and misleading description of the recipe, see Talk:Egg tempera#Misleading. --Pjacobi 23:11, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- With all due respect to Pjacobi, it is not at all misleading. Follow his/her link and you will see my reply.Artemis-Arethusa 21:04, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Terminology Clarifications
I had never heard the terms "fat over lean" apply to tempera painting, but I see that it applies as well. I changed "fat over thin" to "fat over lean" anonymously by accident. Mrs Scarborough 17:27, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I have taken the liberty to clarify the term tempera from a historical perspective, egg is but one form of temper and I felt the cotext had to be made that bit clearer as a modern view sees tempera as one thing, when it was not. user stluke23
I notice that my attempt at clarifying the term 'temper' or tempera has given way to a dubious and incorrect description. Ironically Thompson is quite clear that a 'temper' is a generic term for binder and the term 'egg tempera' is a relatively modern one. Surely it would be of benefit to clarify this point rather than have odd comments re tempera poster paints, which in fact are correct, they are a temper(a), just not an 'egg' tempera. There is no such thing as 'true egg tempera' it is either egg tempera or <add binder> tempera, by clear historical definition. Also egg was not the predominant binder, this is unfounded especially as forms of painting ranged from size (distemper), gum, lime (fresco) dependent on the substrate, I would aslo contest the use of egg (yolk) in illuminations, it is a fat binder and largely not recommended, this confuses the issue of using glair, whilst being from an egg has very different characteristics to yolk.
The opening para is too full of cliches and skewed information. Who's baby is this particular page? Stluke23 (talk) 13:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for that erudite response. I asked because the nature of this wiki lark is such that anyone can pretty much post anything and it becomes gospel, even if clearly out of whack, fine if you like to remain ignorant but some of us do not, so the question is, who takes responsibility for the content here?
[edit] Are These Painters Tempera Painters?
I removed the following text:
- " In Canada they are high realists Ken Danby and Robert Bateman."
because I could not find any evidence that these artists were tempera painters. In fact, I rather thought Bateman was primarily an acrylic artist. If I am incorrect, the text can be replaced. Artemis-Arethusa 20:59, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Mixed" Technique Ahistorical
I removed the text about the mixed tempera and oil technique because it was based on historians' speculation in the mid-twentieth century, but has little or no documentation. Recent chemical analyses of medieval and Renaissance paintings at the Metropolitan Museum of Art and elsewhere suggest that most of them were either all tempera or all oil. The oil-and-tempera theory has lingered a long time, but it has not got any factual backup. (It works as a technique, and many modern "revivalists" have taken it up, but that is not proof it ever was historically used) Artemis-Arethusa 17:50, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Headlines
I just added headlines to this talk page. It didn't have any until now and the page was getting confusing to read. Artemis-Arethusa 21:52, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Poor External Links
User 62.56.112.4 added a couple of external links, one of which I can't make work and another which leads to a very poor, very confusing, inaccurate page on a commercial (?) website (Its unlabelled examples of egg tempera are really watercolor copies of ancient Egyptian tomb paintings, which were never egg tempera anyway). I have removed them. Artemis-Arethusa 01:26, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
