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Thanks for your kind note on my minor tidying of Q. Cicero.

I thought of adding something on the authenticity of the Commentariolum, but maybe you're thinking about that too...

--John Wheater 10:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Cicero

Hi Tellervo

Don't be hard on yourself. Wiki code and reference syntax can be confusing, not only for new users but also for many old contributors. The error you made was very easy to make and it was very easy to fix. It was a nice surprise to see a new Dane on this project, we aren't that many around. I hope you'll have a pleasant time on Wikipedia, and if you're in doubt about something, feel free to contact me. Best regards and happy editing. --Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 22:01, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New User Log Message.

I know you've already been with Wikipedia for a while, but I just saw your message in the new user log.

Welcome!

Hello, Tellervo, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! 

This is the standad welcome message. It has some links for you to help you edit Wikipedia. You probably already know several of the things I've provided, but I thought it might be good to give you more knowledge about Wikipedia. Acalamari 20:09, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

You are very welcome. Acalamari 20:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies

Seeing that you are an active member of the WikiBiography Project, I was wondering if you would help lend a hand in helping us clear out the amount of [unassessed articles] tagged with {{WPBiography}}. Many of them are of stub and start class, but a few are of B or A caliber. Getting a simple assessment rating can help us start moving many of these biographies to a higher quality article. Thank you! --Ozgod 23:00, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry I Wasn't Any Help.

I'm sorry I wasn't any help to you. At the times your posted your messages to my talk page, 10:07 UTC and 14:08 UTC, I would have been asleep. As for your problem, I checked the histroy of the Cicero page, and as you said, it was to do with a reference. Don't worry, I had to learn to make sure I made references correctly. Again, I am sorry I wasn't able to help. Acalamari 16:20, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject Biography March 2007 Newsletter

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[edit] Cicero

I did indeed make a tall promise, one which I intend to honour — eventually. I have to borrow some books on Cicero, and so pay my library fines. I will read the Britannica article first and then do the rest of the work. Some time before this I will be juggling my responsibilities in real life, too.

I did not promise a deadline earlier — how about in three months? Or, failing that, by the end of this year? Brainmuncher 12:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Count Response.

For your edit counts go to Interiot's counter, and type in your name. As for useful sites, do you mean sites on, or off Wikipedia? Acalamari 15:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

  • That's easy! :) It you wanted to link to Cicero, just type in [[Cicero]]. Bear in mind some pages have disambiguation links, so something like "Fergie" would have to be [[Fergie]], if you wanted the disambigatuon links, or [[Fergie (singer)]], if you wanted the singer. Does that help? Acalamari 16:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
    • It works! Thank you! --Tellervo 17:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Correspondents of Cicero

I've added the category to Appius Claudius Pulcher (consul 54 BC). EALacey 12:51, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Response.

I'm really sorry Tellervo, but I have to suggest you ask someone else. I'm quite busy at the moment, and I'm on Dial-Up internet. Again, I am really, really sorry. Acalamari 16:22, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Again, Tellervo; I am really sorry. I have not been as helpful to you as I hoped to be. Seriously; I am sorry. Acalamari 21:00, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assistance

If you need help, simply place {{helpme}} on your userpage, and post your question. You will receive a response. Hope this is helpful to you! KillerChihuahua?!? 22:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] apology

Tellervo, I apologize for the overly harsh edit summary. I never thought that perhaps some of the editors on English wikipedia would speak another language. Hopefully we can put this behind us and work to improve the article. Earendilmm 03:42, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] I am in need of help

Could someone tell me, how to file the first part of an overly long talk page? The talk page in question is Cicero's talk page. Thanking you in advance. --Tellervo 18:20, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Kas, iltaa Tellervo. The instructions on how to archive a talk page are at Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page. Let me know if you need further assistance. Cheers, --KFP (talk | contribs) 18:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk page guidelines

Please read the talk page guidelines, especially the part about editing others' comments. It is a bad practice, and a good way to upset other editors, if you edit posts that aren't your own for grammar and spelling. Thanks.-Andrew c 17:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I understand your intentions are good, but I'll quote from the page I linked to It is not necessary to bring talk pages to publishing standards, so there is no need to correct typing errors, grammar, etc. It tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting ... Editing others' comments (except on your own user talk page) is generally not allowed. It's not a big deal, just letting you know that it isn't necessary and that it upsets some users. Thanks for understanding. I personally don't think kindly pointing out this is over-reacting, but if I have come off with a stern tone, I apologize. I mean well.-Andrew c 18:31, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] IP 65.121.129.102

Hello, and welcome. Always good to see a fellow Scandinavian =)

As for the IP - just report him on WP:AIV (also known as Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism). Just use the format {{IPvandal|IP address}} brief reason for listing (keep it short) ~~~~. An administator will review the case and block as appropriate. Bearing in mind that this seems to be a shared adress (multiple users), and that a not insignificant time has passed since the last vandalism, don't expect a permanent block though.

Happy editing, WegianWarrior 10:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cicero

Hi! I can tell you're relatively new here. Take it easy! I understand that you are very sensitive about your edits (I have the same problem :)), but what counts is wiki policies and the quality of the encyclopedia we're working on.
I didn't mind the bit about the first century Roman so much, but you actually preserved that part of my edit in which I deleted it, and you reverted my other edit, apparently by mistake. Note that it is not OK to write inaccurate (deceiving) edit summaries in order "not to catch someone's attention" (see e.g. Help:Edit summary). A minimum of honesty is expected. I'm sure this is due to inexperience and not to bad intentions on your part.
As for the "first century Roman sentence", I wrote that it is unnecessary (not "useless") because I felt it was not *so* important in comparison to the other info, and the lead section should only contain the most important and non-dubious information. Even if I was wrong to say that and if my wording was too offensive (I don't think it was), strictly speaking, that wouldn't be called WP:POV (only edits to articles are supposed to conform to NPOV); rather, you could accuse me of being a dick :).
I removed the sentence also, among other reasons, because somebody else had already challenged it by adding a [citation needed] tag, and because the fact that the Roman is unnamed looked suspicious. Usually, people at least write "Sallust/Livius has said", even when they don't specify the book and the paragraph. Note that I am perfectly in my right to do this: any sentence may be removed if there is no source specified, and it's up to the other party to prove it's OK by sourcing it (see e.g. WP:V).
Anyway, I'll add it to the talk page of the article (I guess I was wrong not to start with that) and I hope you can find a source. Look at it this way - if the sentence is inaccurate, that would harm wikipedia's reputation. If it's not, the article won't be so harmed by losing it (hopefully only temporarily).
Best wishes,
--91.148.159.4 12:07, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the note regarding this statement. It comes from Cornelius Nepos' Life of Atticus. I've restored it to the article, with a reference. I'd like to keep it in the article, although I wouldn't object if someone moved it to the Works section. EALacey 09:08, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I guess it's good that Tellervo challenged my removal of it, otherwise I wouldn't have left a note and a curious piece of info would have gone lost! I suppose it might be better to move it to "Works", especially in its current detailed form, but I won't do so if nobody else feels that way. --91.148.159.4 13:22, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article assessments

Hi Tellervo

What you'd done was almost correct. The way these templates normally work is by adding a line of code like {{NameOfTheBanner|class=B|importance=Mid}}

In this case (since the template name is {{Orthodoxyproject}} ):

{{orthodoxyproject|class=B|importance=Mid}}

On the other hand, an article from the Finnish project - template name: {{WikiProject Finland}} - could be:

{{WikiProject Finland|class=Start|importance=Low}}

The Estonian template works the same way. The thing to remember is that you need to write "class=" and "importance=" yourself. The class can be assessed as FA, A, GA, B, Start or Stub. The importance rating can be Top, High, Mid or Low. Almost all of the project banners work this way, but on a few of them, you have to write "start, stub, top, high, mid, low" using lowercase letters. Most templates work both ways. Happy editing. Valentinian T / C 09:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A problem

{{helpme}} I am working at present enlarging a stub article on Uspenski Cathedral. It needs references, and I have made the first of them. But this first reference does not show up in the reference section! What is amiss? --Tellervo 06:14, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

You forgot to put on the References section. Miranda 06:16, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: On archiving a talk page

Hey. Yes, I can help you archive the page or alternatively I can do it for you. As for your other question, I've been a Wikipedian for about two years and three months now. Keep up the good work! Cheers, --KFP (talk | contribs) 11:23, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, here you go: Talk:Cicero. You can check these two diffs to see what I did: Talk:Cicero/Archive 1 and Talk:Cicero. --KFP (talk | contribs) 16:42, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Finnish Orthodox Church

Hi, you removed the Christianization of Finland infobox from the Finnish Orthodox Church history chapter. Any specific reasons for this? --Drieakko 06:53, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I made a mistake. Would you put it back?--Tellervo 08:13, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the goodbye message. I have suddenly reappeared, though now I take a different name. You're lucky to have read Cicero; my Latin isn't good enough to read him yet, but no doubt it will be soon. Brainmuncher 17:37, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Somehow I have created a mess(?)

I am wondering about the word sallad at the end of the page of the Finnish Orthodox Church, the reference section. In the article I wrote a bit about hesychism and the "Jesus prayer", but that stuff went all to the reference section. I may have typed the reference to the book:"Orthodox church in Finland" wrongly. --Tellervo 20:21, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Does that look better now? The only thing missing was a closing </ref> tag. I've fixed it for you. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 20:33, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re Tall promise

My promise does stand tall. I am still intent on fulfilling it, though not with any timeframe in mind. The task will have to wait until I have my life in order.

I still love my Latin. A woman came up to me today and interrupted me to personally commend me. I don't know how long I need to finish—maybe three months, maybe six. RedRabbit 16:34, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:I'ts already sourced

Hi, it's already sourced, as you see there is in the section a link to the hs.fi article (english edition) about the recording in the passage. In the hs.fi article there is a section saying:

Journalist Jürgen Schielke transcribed the words on the tape, and it was also translated into Finnish. Schielke was surprised at the "working class language" used by Hitler and his turns of phrase which reflect the speaker’s educational shortcomings.

Of course according to that source it's a "one persons view", so the wikipedia article might be rephrased. But i doubt it is incorrect.

But i think it might be noteworthy to add in with the correct reference templates (i'll get right on it).

Gillis 10:36, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Hi there and sorry for the delayed reply. Thank you for your kind message! Adminship is mostly about common sense, civility and a sufficient understanding of Wikipedia's goals, policies and processes. (You don't have to know everything!) Its hardness mostly depends on the things you choose to do with the admin tools and how you use them. Ask away if you have any further questions. Cheers, --KFP (talk | contribs) 19:55, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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Hello again. Admin tools mostly have to do with keeping Wikipedia clean and dealing with user conduct issues. The tools most often used are deletion and undeletion, blocking and unblocking and page protection and unprotection. Deletion is for pages that Wikipedia is for one reason or another better off without, blocking is to protect Wikipedia and its users from disruptive editors and page protection is mostly for dealing with certain types of vandalism or edit warring. Admins can also view deleted pages and images without undeleting them and edit the MediaWiki namespace to change the site interface and such. There are some other, less commonly used tools as well and some that require a different access level.
As for images, the simplest way is to type 
[[Image:Example.png|thumb|right|Caption goes here.]]
to the place in the article where you want the image to appear. In this case "Image:Example.png" is the file name and "Caption goes here." is the caption of the image. This will produce the image shown on the right.
If the Mannerheim image is in the public domain or freely licensed, you are free to upload it on Wikipedia using the "Upload file" link in the toolbox on the left or at Wikimedia Commons. I hope this helps... And no, I'm not studying or teaching engineering. I do study business related things, though. --KFP (talk | contribs) 17:01, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi, there is a typographical error in the filename on Wikimedia Commons. It says "uspenki" when it should be "uspenski". I changed the Wikipedia page to reflect this mistyping. It is also possible to reupload the file under a new filename. Cheers, --KFP (talk | contribs) 18:57, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Asking for help

There is a rather heated discussion going on on the talk page of Dormition Cathedral, Helsinki. The name of this article was earlier Uspenski Cathedral, Helsinki, by which name it is known in Helsinki and the whole Finland. Finns would not know where on earth the Dormition Cathedral is located, if asked. Editor Ghirla changed the name, now I am asking how to revert the name to its earlier form? --Tellervo 08:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

You can change the name of an article by using the "move" button on top of the article. First, you should look at Wikipedia:Naming conventions. The name, the Finns use, does not matter as long as there is another name, English speaking people prefer to use. This wikipedia is for English speaking persons. Finns will usually use the Wikipedia of their language.--Thw1309 09:11, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sisennykset

Terve!

Koska puhut suomea, laitan asian tänne suomeksi. Kun kirjoitat keskustelusivuille sisennettyä tekstiä, ei ole tarpeen sisentää jokaista riviä erikseen. Kaksoispiste kappaleen alussa sisentää koko kappaleen. --MPorciusCato 15:24, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Kiitos tiedosta! Terveisin--Tellervo 15:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Biography Newsletter 5

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[edit] Marshal of Finland

{{helpme}} I have worked on the article about C.G.E. Mannerheim. This evening I wanted to add to the lead section that he was regent of Finland 1918-1919. The result is a mess that I cannot solve.Kindly help! Tellervo 16:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Your problem was a leading space, which overrides normal formatting: see Help:Wikitext examples#Just show what I typed. Algebraist

[edit] Tellervo

Hello Tellervo, I thought I'd just drop by to see how you were doing. :) Acalamari 19:09, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Incorrect Assumptions

You asserted that there were lots of mispellings and that words only had one correct spelling in English. This is incorrect, for example, Siva and Shiva are both used, and there are many other examples (gnani or jnani, etc.). The spellings you consider correct are merely one choice, and in the case of what you considered the "correct" name for Benares, the one you selected simply redirected, thus the choice you made was inappropriate. And when you fail to consider the spelling in the source for the statement but conduct original research, you may very well confuse the reader. Your assertion that Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi was correct can be readily refuted by an internet search which is what other editors were telling you. At some point, having shown you by example how to deal with this situation only to have you ignore that and continue sloppy editing that harms the articles, patience is exhausted because the article quality is affected. Sorry about that but the article comes first. I suggest you read this site: http://www.kamat.com/econtent/amusements/desinames.htm, which may illuminate for you the ignorance implicit in your assertions about spellings of Indian terms. You will find that editors may not take perhaps well meaning but sloppy criticism kindly, especially when it doesn't improve the article. May I suggest you be more careful to ensure you know what you are doing before you make such rash charges in the future. --Dseer 06:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cicero & IPA

Hi,

You reverted my edit to pronunciation of Cicero, implying that it was vandalism. It was not: I redirected the link to IPA keys that are far more accessible than the main IPA article, and deleted a variant transcription that was supposedly RP vs. GA, but was actually meaningless, and in any case covered by the IPA key. kwami 02:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi,

I am sorry that I seem to have acted too hastily. What made me draw the conclusion that your edit was vandalism, was that you seem not to have made any distinction between British English pronounciaton and American English pronounciation. Your preferred English pronounciation is something in between these two. Would you add this distinction to the Cicero site? Cheers, --Tellervo 10:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

It's not necessary, since there's no significant difference between RP and GA for this word, as can be seen from the IPA key. The difference between British and American dictionary transcriptions reflects local convention as much as anything else, and varies from dictionary to dictionary. kwami 12:18, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello again!

Sorry to hear about your conflicts. :( I suppose sometimes a rest from Wikipedia is a big help when things get tough here. Regarding my edits, well, I guess it's because I've had time to make them; I've been editing a lot less recently due to more important events in real life. With my social life, what were you referring to? :) Anyway, I'm glad to see you're still around and doing well. Acalamari 00:30, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A Wikipedia meetup in Helsinki?

Hello! Are you interested in a meetup for contributors of the English language Wikipedia in Finland? If so, please comment at Wikipedia:Meetup/Helsinki (and, of course, invite other Wikipedians you know who might be interested). Cheers, --KFP (talk | contribs) 12:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Tellervo! Don't worry, they're good options, I haven't commented anything recently as I'm not sure about a possible date and such... If we look for a restaurant type setting for the meetup, something like Tori might be a good option and if it is to be something more pub-like, Kaisla or something similar might be good. But I don't know! There are dozens of options. :) --KFP (talk | contribs) 17:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] WikiProject Christianity

Hello Tellervo!

You are cordially invited to participate in WikiProject Christianity

The goal of WikiProject Christianity is to improve the quality and quantity of information about Christianity available on Wikipedia. WP:X as a group does not prefer any particular tradition or denominination of Christianity, but prefers that all Christian traditions are fairly and accurately represented.

You are receiving this invitation because you are a member of one of the related Christianity Projects and I thought that you might be interested in this project also - Tinucherian (talk) 03:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


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