User talk:Teknolyze

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[edit] C'mon now...

Really... Wikipedia is not the place to generate publicity for a film. FlowerpotmaN (t · c) 19:48, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

There's a reply to your message on my talk page. FlowerpotmaN (t · c) 20:57, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pov pushing

I would like to let you know that Wikipedia is a neutral encyclopaedia. You have recently made several alterations to Northern Ireland towns and cities removing UK based references and templates and altering some references to Northern Ireland to just Ireland. Please stop. Ben W Bell talk 07:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I've noticed some more of your edits where you remove references to the UK or Britain, remove Northern from Northern Ireland and alter articles to state they are Irish films when they are British films. Please stop this deliberate POV pushing through Wikipedia or you may be blocked from editing. Wikipedia is a neutral encyclopaedia, so please do not use it to push your own brand of POV. Ben W Bell talk 10:46, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Please refrain from using Wikipedia to push your own political POV, as you have done yet again with this edit. Removal of a valid and worldwide used term for a version more compatible with your viewpoint is not acceptable on Wikipedia. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia in this way you will be blocked from editing. Ben W Bell talk 12:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
As a result of your continued POV pushing and alteration of terms on Wikipedia, as per this edit you have been temporarily blocked from editing Wikipedia. You are welcome to return once your block has expired but continued vandalism may result in further blocks. Ben W Bell talk 12:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hate letter to a hypocrite

What is your fucking problem! you blocked me from editing because I altered an out of date term for the group of islands in which we both live that enforces the long abolished sense of british imperialism enforced on my country, with a far more approriate AND I might add, a perfectly recognised and accepted one? Look, you seem to have no problem going around wikipedia deleting anthing legitimatly irish and claiming it as british (dispite the fact you were born in Ireland) yet you attack anyone with half a sense of pride about where they come from who atempts the reverse. Y'know, I was initialy sorry for calling you a hypocrite, telling myself that you were only defending your opinion like anyone else in a perfectly honest way, but I now realise I was right the first time.

By the way, I'm also writing this to inform you that whenever you inapropiatly attempt to claim any Irish (or northern irish) person, place or thing as british, I'll be there. And I'm seventeen, so I have a hell of a lot of free time on my hands. user talk:Teknolyze

You were blocked for altering established worldwide accepted terms to suit your own political POV, and also for previous alterations of articles to make them appear to be of Irish origin when they were not. If something is British it is British, if something is Irish it is Irish. If you continue to add incorrect and personally motivated information to Wikipedia then you may be blocked again in future, so please don't. Ben W Bell talk 12:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you Teknolyze, Ben W Bell does seem to have issues with being Irish born, I am English and certainly NOT British, just because the Government classes everyone as British to avoid excessive admin you should be able to state what part of the "United Kingdom" you are from.

We should state what our nationalities are in the UK but Ben seems to think that they do not exist!

If you check his comments page Flexcoupling agrees with what my disagreement with Ben was about. msa1701

For your information I have no issues whatsoever with my nationality or citizenship of birth. Fact, I was born in Northern Ireland. Fact, that automatically makes me a British citizen. Fact, being born in Northern Ireland gives you the option of taking Irish citizenship. Fact, I have choices in my life over my self-identity. I don't believe accidents of people's birth makes them what they are, but choices in how they identify. Yes I was born in Northern Ireland, yes that makes me a British citizen, yes I can choose Irish citizenship, yes I can choose to be a Unionist, yes I can choose to be a Republican, yes I can choose to be Catholic/Protestant/anything else I really want to be. I have no issues with my self identification or with accidents of birth which is irrelevant. All that matters are the choices you make for yourself, not what others say your choices are or what your opinions and thought should be. Ben W Bell talk 12:16, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Vandalism and personal attacks

Regarding this edit, if you continue to push vandalism and personal attack edits you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Ben W Bell talk 03:39, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Look mate, you've been following me around, watching my every move for god knows how long now and it's just getting tiresom having to respond every time you threaten to block me from editing for doing whatever. Haven't you got anything better to do with your time? Because if all you do on this site is follow people like me around waiting for them to do something that offends your bigoted sensebilities, that makes you one of the most pathetic, sad, miserable wastes of space I have ever encountered in my short lifespan. You truly do make me sick. So just stop bothering me and I'll stop bothering you and neither of us will have to endure the other again. Alright? User: Teknolyze

P.S. Fergal Sharkey is a registered irish citizen you prick.

[edit] A welcome and a warning

Thank you for your word of warning. However I have no interest getting involved with any personal disputes you may have with any other wikipedians. (Okeeffe.christopher (talk) 22:44, 13 February 2008 (UTC))

Fair enough. Just for the record though, I wasn't trying to get you involved with anything. Happy editing User:Teknolyze

[edit] Absolute final warning

Due to this edit and [1] edit this is your last and final warning about your edits. If you cannot contribute to a NEUTRAL encyclopaedia in a civil manner then you will be banned from editing Wikipedia.

And just so you know, it may be little known and often ignored or outright vilified, but anyone born in Northern Ireland is automatically a British citizen just like anyone born in Scotland, England or Wales. They have a right to choose to take on Irish citizenship as well, or if they like to revoke their British citizenship and only have Irish (which has to voluntarily be taken up unless the parents are Irish citizens as well), but they are still British citizens until such time as they revoke it. Most people completely ignore it and in the long run it makes absolutely no difference to people's lives as it will have no impact for the majority, but fact is fact.

Oh and if I'm watching your edits it is only because you have a history of vandalism, incredibly slanted POV edits and personal attacks. I am not pro-British, I am not anti-British, I am not pro-Irish, I am no anti-Irish. I edit a neutral encyclopaedia by the rules and procedures established by the encyclopaedia. If you want a soapbox for your own brand of opinions then maybe you're better off editing somewhere else. Ben W Bell talk 00:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

You just had to have the final word didn't you? Bias is bias no matter what you call it. Now could you please just leave me alone?User: Teknolyze

[edit] Film nationalities

Please note. Just because a film is set in a country or filmed in a country doesn't mean the film is a product of that country or of that nationality. The nationality of a film is internationally recognised by film studios, institutes and other organisations as the nationality of the company doing the production and creation of the film. For instance despite being filmed and set in Japan, The Last Samurai is a US film, not a Japanese film. Similarly films made by companies based in London are UK films, not Irish films even if set in Ireland. A film set in London but made by a production company based in Dublin would be an Irish film despite being filmed in the UK. Ben W Bell talk 23:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes. I know. That's why I only edit the articles in which the film in question is legitimatly irish. If a film has partial UK funding, that does not necessarily make it a British film if the film was started through an irish production company.

And incedentily, if what you claim is true, then why do you often delete the Category section saying "irish films" on certain articles like Divorcing Jack and leave only the Category saying "british films" on certain pages? User:Teknolyze

Divorcing Jack, made by Scala Productions, 15 Frith Street, London, W1D 4RE. A British company, not an Irish company. Divorcing Jack isn't an Irish film, it's a British film. As are many that you are setting to Irish films. I'm sure the edits are in good faith, but a bit of research before labelling British made films as Irish films is needed. Ben W Bell talk 02:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

True. But it also had irish funding in it, and was directed by an irishman from the republic who went on the record being appaled that it was being sold as a "british" film. As a compromise I think the Categorys for both irish and british films should be used. Plus, on a similar note, the film of michael collins was produced through an american company but I don't think anyone would go calling that an american film. keep that in mind. User:Teknolyze


How a film is defined isn't up to us, it's up to the international film community who use the nationality of the production company as the indicator for the film's nationality. This is Wikipedia, where we report on facts and decisions made by other people, we don't make up and decide for ourselves these facts. And where the money comes from is completely irrelevant to the equation, most film financing actually comes from or through German financiers, but most films are most certainly not German films. Ben W Bell talk 23:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

This is getting really tiresome alright? Look, if I go and change something to something else through editing that you believe to be inaccurate, you go and change it back. And I'll do likewise. I'm really sorry for all the crap I kept arguing with you about, just please leave me alone and stop bothering me so I can get back to what I actually want to be doing here. Now please go and do something more productive with your time rather than sending me messages about your point of view. It's been made clear. User:Teknolyze

Please stop with the fake film nationalities. Making up a film's nationality just because it was filmed/set somewhere isn't how a film's nationality is internationally accepted. I have pointed this out to you several times and you still insist on continuing this editing pattern. Even the category you are putting them into is wrong anyway as it states "This category contains articles about films made by companies based in the Republic of Ireland." This is your final warning on the topic, please stop. Canterbury Tail talk 14:03, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

What fake film nationalities? Are you accusing me of making up imaginary countries now or something? And I remain baffled about how you can remain so staunch about your consistant defence of everything british about northern Ireland yet still claim to be neutral. For the last time could you please find something a little more constructive to do with your time than watching my every move like some internet stalker? I'm sure there are plenty of articles on fake british people, places, and things that need your attention. And I'd really,really like someone other than you to appear on my talk page from time to time. User:Teknolyze

You are adding false information to articles, that constitutes vandalism. Claiming films to be Irish films when they are not is vandalism, and you have been warned many times. Canterbury Tail talk 02:51, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Well then, its a very good thing I don't go around wikipedia adding false information to articles and claiming films to be irish when they're not isn't it? I'm not a vandal like you've called me on several occasions, so your warnings mean nothing as they are clearly about nothing. You also keep ignoring the fact that you have yourself in the past vandalised my page. Wouldn't you call that an abuse of your power as someone who can block others from editing for whatever reason you see fit? Teknolyze (talk) 03:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I have vandalised your page? When? I'd like to point out you do have a past history of more traditional vandalism though that seems to have stopped. And you keep adding the category to films stating they are Irish films when they are not. That is adding false information. The category you keep adding is misleading and incorrect. Canterbury Tail talk 04:47, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh and just so you know, I have been a little harsh. It would indeed be wrong of me to block you on this matter for two reasons. 1) it is effectively a content dispute that I am involved in and 2) you are not doing it out of any malicious intent, or attempt to deliberately vandalise Wikipedia and introduce false content. Your edits on this matter are in good faith. Canterbury Tail talk 13:41, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Appreciate it. And thank you for finally admitting as much. However I can't make the promise that I'll stop adding an "Irish films" category to the bottom of a page when I honestly do myself believe that it's deserved. And I do always verify things before adding them depite what you may have been lead to believe Teknolyze (talk) 21:31, 9 March 2008 (UTC)