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[edit] Is Jack-6 really a new character?

I'd argue you can't call him a new character as Namco aren't. He's just Jack 5 with a new name. Thom32 23:04, 04 March 2008 (GMT)

I must agree that Jack-6 IS NOT a new character he is a returning character with a new name and paint job, Jack is Jack no matter what number is behind his name. Having him as a new character is just ridiculous. SlaveofBetrayal (Talk) —Preceding comment was added at 05:11, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

He's an updated character, as updated as every old character.Zelphi (talk) 11:30, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] TEKKEN 6 OPENING IS OUT NOW

I would like to inform you that they already have showed the Opening of Tekken 6 on some kind of E3-like show or something. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYrJGqRPR-E

[edit] Character source

If you're going to list any characters in any place other than the rumors section then please provide proof or a source showing that they have been confirmed. --TheKoG 01:39, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Why

Why is this thing being called tekken 6? The video simply says Tekken.

Well, because it's still working title. When the final name comes in it can be moved. --Thorpe | talk 13:04, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't believe Namco stated that this game is actually Tekken 6. They just said it's a new version of Tekken, so there is speculation that it might be Tekken Tag 2. It's entirely possible.

True, but we'll have to assume that it's a new one for now. A TTT2 seems more likely to come out after Tekken 6. TTT is really the Tekken equivalent of Mortal Kombat Trilogy. - The 4th Snake 17:34, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I found a source stating that this is Tekken 6 and not a new version of Tekken. Weezcake 04:51, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Is this good enough for you? http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/index.html --Yewyew 13:37, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

I Can't Edit The Template, So If Someone Could, Edit The PHOTO In It.

Real Pic Below:

[[1]]

That picture is clearly fake. Michael Mad 11:13, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Can You Prove That ?

Well, both the image of Devil Kazuya and Devil Jin are from past promotional material released by Namco. I doubt that Namco would use past models in new games. Michael Mad 20:46, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

So, Maybe I'm Right, And Maybe YOU'RE Right.

And The Case Is Closed, For Now.

Please sign your posts. Michael Mad 19:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I Got The PAL Cover! Maybe Using A Tekken Encyclopedia, But..Nevermind..Here:

[[2]] The Man Who Was Writing All The Time

[edit] Jun could return

T3's manual said she went missing. Then we have the Tekken plot questioning her death in later games as well with all this "her body was never found" and "Kazama blood special powers" stuff. Add in the unanswered stuff about her and Kazuya, Jin turning evil, Asuka descovering her powers, etc...and she's likly inside some science lab being experimented on. Doesn't mean she'll be playable (unless they give her a couple of Angel's moves for the "Angel gene").

And in the new trailer it seems that both Asuka and the new female were shocked to see something. The new one especially that jaw dropping moment when she opened the doors. You never know, especially when it comes to the Kazamas and Mishimas. They always live through something that they shouldn't have. And if any character is returning from a long time of absence...it would be Jun thanks to all the questioning of her death in this series....and maybe Kunimitsu. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by VRaptorX (talk • contribs) 22:43, 17 March 2007 (UTC).

Ummm... what trailer shows Asuka opening a door and she had a jaw dropping moment. I only saw the trailer with Zafina opening doors. If Jun does return that would be great along with Kunimistu. MemoriesOfThePast2

i dont think kunimitsu will return in a story mode at least. But something will happen with jun because every game brings her up one way or another. maybe jun will pull a violet, lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by Threatening force (talk • contribs) 23:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In my opinion

I think Tekken 6 might be a Street Fighter III equivalent for the Tekken Franchise. I think the only returning character for this one is likely to be Jin Kazama. Other characters I think might be new to the series or may carry moves with some twists from past Tekken characters from the series. I also think that it may be possible that Poster Boy Kazuya Mishima might also be present, though I'm gonna have to deduce that Jin Kazama is likely to be the only character returning for this one. — Vesther 00:33, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

You're insane. There's no way Namco could get away with that. Let's remember that, unlike Street Fighter, which has multiple versions (II, Alpha, EX, Vs, III), the Tekken series only has one main series (with a few spinoffs if you consider the handheld games and Tag). Street Fighter III could get away with an all-new cast because the old one had remained practically the same for years. Tekken is constantly adding and dropping new characters with each new title. With the introduction of popular characters like Raven, Steve Fox, Asuka Kazama and Feng Wei, there's no way in hell Namco would have the stones to pull something like that. King Zeal 08:04, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
Stop using a Wiki discussion page as a substitute for a forum.
Namco would never do that. Look at T5 they brought back almost everyone except Kunimitsu and Forest Law. A new Tekken game with only Jin as the returning character would not be very popular among fans. Aeneiden-Rex 09:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

My guess is that Jin Kazama had rid himself of Devil Jin and left the throne after he defeated Jinpachi. Now when Devil Jin takes over, Jin must fight Kazuya and Heihahci again to stop his dark ego.

You forgot Dark Ressurection.--Yewyew 13:41, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Breaking News

I just heard on a message board that Jun Kazama is going to return in this game.

If this game is in fact TTTag 2 then she returns but not for T6, they have Asuka now. Aeneiden-Rex 09:08, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't know where either of you are getting your information, so I'll remain suspicious. As far as I'm aware, we know absolutely nothing about the character roster. Asuka's presence in the game doesn't necessarily rule out Jun, either. King Zeal 14:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Well it remains to be seen but I'm gonna hate Namco if if they bring back Jun to T6. If it's Tag 2 then it won't matter cause Tag is a spinoff but I hope they won't return her for Tekken 6. Aeneiden-Rex 15:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Jun was killed off in Tekken 3 by Ogre. They won't bring her back, seeing that now they have Asuka (and because she's dead). Weezcake 08:15, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
She wasnt killed off by ogre, it says she was mearly missing.Darkdoom3000

Zeal's got a point. Baek Doo San, Bruce Irvin, Kazuya Mishima, Marshall Law and Wang Jinrei were replaced by Hwoarang, Bryan Fury, Jin Kazama, Forest Law and Ling Xiaoyu respectively. All of them returned. Jun and even Michelle could return. - The 4th Snake 17:38, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

But then again, howarnag and beak were a lot diffrent, bryan is nothing like bruce, and marshal law was more liked , and ling and wang? their fighting styles are way diffrent, jin was the replacement for kazyua, but in tekken 4, kazya got his old moves back and jin got a new moveset because he hated the mushimas....i cant see asuka or jun changing their moves unless they have a reason(like jin)...but then again, eddy is his own character(in DR) even though his moveset is like cristies. same for amour king. Darkdoom3000

Who added Potatoman? I'll pay that it was funny, but I don't think it should stay there

[edit] Impossible

Jun could not possibly return. Although others have, Jun will not return because of the fact that she could been in 3,4, or 5, but has not. Also, there is Asuka. I know about Eddy/Christie, but Eddy was brought back in the next game.

Jun's body was never found and is always a constant plot point Namco loves to question. Every Tekken since 2 has had a "where is she?" or an "is she alive?" part. Previous dead and replaced characters came back. Plus, Jun has the angel gene,, she could just get the lazor beam moves and Namco will count that as being different. They are really cheap about character variations like that. Plus, her reveil would affect the plot drastically for Asuka (who hasn't learned of her power), Jin, Kazuya, Heihachi (she trusted Jin to him), etc. She may never be playable again but that doesn't mean she is impossible to return. She could be a boss or a non playable alive character and that still counts as a return. (VRaptorX)

Hey there no such thing as impossible devil kazuya is returning to fight devil jin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allen jackson (talk • contribs) 15:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

It is not impossible. If characters like Kazuya, Bruce, Wang and Armor King can return after dying, I don't see why Jun can't. But then again, Asuka could considered the second Jun, just like they have a second King and Kuma. --RikkuLover (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 02:45, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What a rubbish page

The only thing on the page is a far too detailed description of what happens in the trailer movie (which is almost certainly not representative of the final product).Mr.bonus 15:34, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coin Op & PS3

I know that this Tekken game is being released for the Playstation 3 (with rumors of an Xbox 360 version in the works, just like the Ridge Racer game that was released for the Xbox 360), but I have never heard of a coin-op version of Tekken 6. Could you please tell me where this truthful information that has been verified has come from? Thank you very much. --mike_mgoblue


Tekken rights are owned by Sony. Namco has no choice in where this series goes as far as platforms go. Soul Caliber, yeah they can put it on whatever they want but not tekken. (VRaptorX 3/17/07)

Namco signed a lifetime contract with Sony that every Tekken game will only be released on Sony's platform and not anybody else's. If somebody says it is they are probably just a Xbox fanboy. Starwarsrulez 19:27, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but there's still the possiblility, I thought it was made that Soul Calibar was exclusivly for the Playstation systems starting at SC3, infact I distinctivly remember seeing that on G4, but recently it turns out it's coming to The 360. And Viva Pinata, Microsoft owns Rare, yet it is still some how making it's what to the DS -Brave

Nonsense, they made a Tekken for the GBA. --66.66.98.133 11:06, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Namco themselves stated that they will be releasing canon games stricly with sony, so, no there will be no tekken 6 on 360, but maybe a tag tourney 2, just mabye. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Threatening force (talk • contribs) 23:31, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree witht the unsigned comment.--Chipmonk328 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.234.143.114 (talk) 18:01, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kazuya Mishima Confirmed?

Anyone care to elaborate?

I haven't heard anything about this, nor have we seen anything from Namco. Where did you get this information? (Meh, I keep forgetting to sign my comments) Weezcake 07:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Info?

are they actually gonna release any information on this?

[edit] Heihachi, Nina, Yoshimitsu, and Paul

Shouldn't Heihachi, Nina, Yoshimitsu and Paul be confirmed? They should because they are in every Tekken game. Iswatch19 13:19, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

No. There's a first time for everything. King Zeal 04:58, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Those four characters should be confirmed, and I have played all the Tekken series, and whenever I play one of the sequals, I always see the four chracters on the character selection screen. So those four characters should be confirmed. --MacintoshApple 11:46, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
You seemed to be confused about the meaning of "confirmed". "Confirmed" would mean that you can provide physical evidence that these characters are in the game. (Ex: official statements, screenshots, quotes, etc.). Until that is provided, absolutely nothing is confirmed, and no character will be added until it is. King Zeal 14:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
It's expected though, but it isn't confirmed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Magikmm (talk • contribs) 17:14, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

It has been confirmed via screenshots that Heihachi and Yoshimitsu will be in Tekken 6. Michael Mad 20:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

its been confirmed on their webpage, but its not like paul is that important in terms of the storyline, he seems like a filler character to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Threatening force (talk • contribs) 23:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Character Section

Since we don't know that Jin, Lili or Hwoarang will definitely return, I renamed the "Returning Characters" section to "Possible Returning Characters". The 4th Snake 17:45, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

And I'm removing it completely. ALL characters are possible returning characters. There's no need for it at this time, as it is just speculation. 199.126.137.209 23:30, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Hwoarang is definately in Tekken 6... he's shown in the latest screens. SD TEKKEN 02:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Can you provide a link that's independent of your site? King Zeal 03:16, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

The link you ordered; http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tekken6zl8.jpg.Michael Mad 19:50, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Industry Analyst Release Predictions

I took the time to point out some of the things that industry analysts say Namco is scheduling. I talk about release dates for the Xbox 360 version that is currently in development, but has not yet been officially announced, since it is not going to be released until late 2007, slightly later than the Playstation 3 version due to the extra time needed to include Xbox Live online play that will not be included in the Playstation 3 version. I provided references for the information I provided. Mike mgoblue 02:20, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

That site is not a credible source, in my opinion. All it states is that the game is RUMORED to ship for XBox 360, and states that this was learned from anonymous sources. I recommend that it be removed until an actual CREDIBLE source announces it, or the statement is backed up on other gaming news sites. King Zeal 06:54, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
If you look at the article, it basically says "Tekken 6 coming to the xbox?" (note the question mark). Once a site like gamespot or ign confirms it, we can put it into the article. But until then.. Weezcake 07:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Namco has never released any Tekken game on a non-Sony branded console. Despite what the rumour mill always tends to say around the release time of a new Tekken installment, Sony have a lifetime exclusivity contract with Namco to guarantee that the Tekken franchise will only feature on their hardware.--Durzel 16:46, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
You're wrong. There's Tekken Advance for GBA.

87.69.217.141 16:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Meh, thats a spin off.Darkdoom3000
meaning if ther was a ttt2 (thers no reason to be..) it'd be possible to go on another console. But NEVER a dirrect part of cannon. Only spin-offs are non exclusive to sony.--Chipmonk328 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.234.143.114 (talk) 18:04, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Website

Is there an official website for Tekken 6? Morris Munroe 10:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so. I wish they'd release more info about the game.. I want to know what I can look forward to! But until then, you'll have to watch websites like IGN and Gamespot. Weezcake 01:27, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Guess what, now there is. TK6AC official site Doesn't really give much, only 2 new peeps. Should be Leo and Armor King from screenshot 2, Medina and Jack from 4, others I can't make out. And hey look, it's the upgraded C3PO! Ytlow 14:06, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

That is Jack if I'm right. It shows him been customised to look like that in the trailer . Actually, is it a new Jack or Jack 5. It says in the confirmed characters section that there is a Jack 6, but there is no proof that the Jack robot seen in the trailer is a new one(it looks just like Jack 5 to me).Michael Mad 19:26, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

He looks slightly larger to me.

[edit] Hwoarang and Lili

Since the E3 video has nothing to do with T6, should the T6 section in Hwoarang and Lili be removed for good? Ytlow 08:52, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

No. The trailer exists. The fact that it isn't canon doesn't change the fact that they were in it. Besides that, I have yet to see a citation for that particular bit of info. King Zeal 16:37, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Why don't you just visit their official website... If what the website shows, they will... chimerarc —Preceding comment was added at 23:25, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jack-6

There is nothing in the new trailer that states or implies that the Jack seen in the trailer is Jack-6. This Jack looks very much like Jack-5, that said it doesn't mean it is Jack-5 seeing how the majority of Jack models look alike. Untill more is said by Namco on the subject at hand, this Jack robot should just be referred to as Jack or not referred to at all.Michael Mad 13:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

The problem with just listing the character as "Jack" is the fact that the name already belongs to completely seperate character in the Tekken universe. Also, calling it "Jack-5", is assuming just as much. If we want to avoid any sort of designation, I'll simply make the change to "an unspecified model of Jack". King Zeal 16:59, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you're right. Calling this robot Jack would just led to confusion, and calling him Jack-5 or Jack-6 would just be foolish as there isn't sufficent proof that the robot is either.Michael Mad 18:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

True. Although they do seem to go in order, there are deviations in the Jack series, like P-Jack and Gun-Jack. Looks like this Jack may have a new name if they still go with the 1-2-different-4-5-different pattern. I guess leaving it at that is best, although it does look kind of weird haha. Weezcake 20:04, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, is Gun Jack the Jack-3? Also, somebody keeps putting a Kory Sapp on the confirmed characters list. I'll delete it(hopefully once and for all).Michael Mad 13:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Whoever is doing this is repeatedly vandalising the page. I'll delete his "contributions".Michael Mad 13:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, Gun Jack was technically "Jack-3", although that obviously wasn't the name used. King Zeal 13:43, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Leo

Is Leo a boy or a girl? 200.88.230.163 18:33, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Looks like a guy but I've heard that Leo is a girl. Don't think that needs to be in the article anyways.. Weezcake 23:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

It has been confirmed that Leo is indeed a GIRL--Dlae 15:01, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Wow, didnt see that comming, im guessing its because its a "beginner character" so that gals will choose her too


LEO! LEO! where are you?chimerarc —Preceding comment was added at 00:31, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Y'know, at first I thought Leo was a boy. You can guess why... masculine name, short hair, even looked like a boy. Then I found out she was a girl. Damn... but I always thought Tekken needed more chix. MORTAL KOMBAAAT!!! XD (talk) 03:33, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Leo is supposed to be a man. First, there's the name. That should be obvious. Then, there's the fact he's never been said to be a girl by any official outlet, in Japan. Go ahead and prove me wrong on that one. And finally, there's the fact he's been referred to as being male in several Japanese articles: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2058/1861467652_8303577f4c_b.jpg (Arcadia): "biseinen" -> male, or http://www.jeux-france.com/images1_4_20377.html (FamiTsû): "karera" when referring to Leo and Zafina means that at last one of them is male, and obviously, Zafina isn't. While I guess there's still the possibility that Leo is _secretly_ a girl, so far, he's always been said to be male. 88.161.129.43 (talk) 16:25, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Firstly, there are girl's names that are shortened to "Leo". LEONA, for example.
Secondly, I don't think many of us can read Japanese. For all I know, the article you provided said that Leo is a South African midget. An English source for this would be nice. King Zeal (talk) 17:14, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
It would be nice, but there isn't any yet, so... I mean, all we have is Japanese sources, right now. If none of you can verify them, why does this page exist at all? ^^; 88.161.129.43 (talk) 17:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
That's the very point I've brought up in the past. My whole argument since the beginning was to wait until official English sources wrote the profiles for the various characters. Right now, all we've got to go on are fan-based translations, which could be wrong or intentionally misleading. If what you're saying is true, then that means SDTekken and Tekken Zaibatsu have BOTH mistranslated Leo's profile--and that would be a pure example of my point.
So, on this one, I'm taking the neutral stance--Leo's an "it" until I see an official statement saying otherwise. However, I'll go with whatever consensus that gets reached. King Zeal (talk) 17:43, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The unintelligible word in the story

it supposed to be "power" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.132.13.159 (talk) 20:09, 1 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Does anyone know?

I don't know if Raven is going to be in Tekken 6 since in his page it says that when you play Nina's story mode in Tekken 5, she kills Raven.--Josue Ramirez 01:17, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Nina's ending involves herself and Anna, not Raven. Weezcake 01:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't make any difference, anyway, because what happens in the current game doesn't count. The only story you can trust is whatever they chose for the next game. King Zeal 18:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes it does. You should know that Tekken is one long story line in which Tekken 5 story lines affect Tekken 6 ones. Unless the character was extremely unpopular or dies in the story, Namco generally removes them from the roster. Weezcake 22:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
No, it doesn't. Remember when Devil was defeated by Kazuya in his Tekken 2 ending? Or when Jun Kazama purified the Devil from Kazuya?
No, wait. I'll do one better: Remember when Lei Wulong shot and arrested Nina in his Tekken 4 ending? Remember how much impact that ending had on Tekken 5? Zero. That's because the Tekken series has a VERY unclear method of selecting which endings are canon and which are not. Therefore, it makes no difference to start speculating whose endings are real and whose isn't, because we won't know for sure until the next game is released. King Zeal 23:58, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
In Lei's ending, he arrested Nina. In Nina's ending, she got away just as he kicked down the door. I actually don't remember the T2 endings (I was like.. 8?), but I guess you make a good point. Although I was thinking that she had the power to neutralize but not purify the devil gene.. anyways this is kind of sounding like a forum post so I think I should stop there :P Weezcake 18:34, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Why don't you get it? Only one ending from each game is canon (that of that tournament's winner) which means that for Tekken 6, only Jin's ending in Tekken 5 is canon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.178.122.18 (talk) 13:11, 12 April 2007 (UTC).
Also not true. King's Tekken 4 ending was definitely canon, as it's referred to in his Tekken 5 biography. Also, there's Jack-2's ending in Tekken 2. Neither of those characters won the tournament, but their endings definitely happened. King Zeal 20:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
It is the same for Bryan Fury's ending in Tekken 4 and Eddy Gordo's ending in Tekken 3, with both endings being referenced to in suceeding games.Michael Mad 20:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
The endings you mentioned are only partially true with Jack-2 being a possible exception I'm not sure about him. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.178.6.25 (talk) 13:56, 14 April 2007 (UTC).
King's T4 ending is completely true. King Zeal 16:14, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
No. The text states tht King won the tournament. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.178.134.72 (talk) 17:00, 5 May 2007 (UTC).
Completely owned.

[edit] New info

I just found this on an internet forum, should it be added to the article? http://ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=66482

No. King Zeal 05:27, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

That storyline is little more than an April Fool's joke.Michael Mad 18:24, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

No, only the Leo and Zafina information is false, the rest was released in japan in 30/3. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.178.122.18 (talk) 13:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC).

If it is official, then give us a source, a reliable source.Michael Mad 19:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

In other words, show us a page released by Namco. King Zeal 20:06, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I will get a scan of the Arcadia Magazine linked here for proof on the story/information I have submitted. BTW, this is MarkMan of Tekken Zaibatsu/SDTEKKEN and I can confirm this information was in the actual Arcadia Magazine interview with director Harada... SD TEKKEN 06:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi MarkMan! I recognize your name, even though I haven't been to the TZ forums since T4 (haha)! I don't think anyone is arguing that the Arcadia article is not genuine. The problem is that the source you keep adding is fansite, with an amatuer translation used (also from a fan). Also, that report was published in Japan, where their version could be different from another countries'. Nothing is official yet (by Namco). I personally don't mind your addition to the article, but I'm afraid others do. Byxbee 09:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
A scan of the magazine won't be good enough unless you can provide an official translation. Until there is, we can only allow pics, videos and screenshots as sources. King Zeal 10:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arcadia Magazine

Okay, now I'm confused. Apparently, Gamepro.com has published an article that reiterates what's been said on the Tekken Zaibatsu forums and the SDTekken fansite. However, it does NOT provide a direct source for this new information and continues to quote these two sites without any links to a confirmation by Namco. The article even states that a lot of this information was taken from forums, which, as we know, isn't the best source of reliable info.

But, in the interest of fairness, now that an English source has commented on these claims, I think it would be unfair to continue deleting them. However, what I'm NOT sure of is how we source it. Keep in mind that the information is STILL unverifiable, and, at best, is second-hand (or even third-hand) information. With that consideration, I have no idea what we're supposed to do here.King Zeal 11:59, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm surprised such reputable news agencies with plenty of their own industry resources and connections have used information taken from amateur sources. I'm not sure how this should be sourced either, because the same article appears on many websites, and most all of them mention the information is from TZ forums and/or sdtekken.com. Why couldn't Gamepro, or all the other places reporting this, just get their own direct interview and confirmation of these details? Something like this is just not professional IMO. But since Gamepro is among the most prestigious of them, I suppose it's best we use their article as the source, and maybe the orignal sdtekken.com one as well. http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=109090 Any disagreements? Byxbee 07:06, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
None here. Just can't get over the silliness of all this. King Zeal 20:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Confused

The article says to not use Arcadia as a source (why I removed those characters), yet Arcadia is the only place that I know of that confirmed those characters, and they are now in the article. The article also says that they are in the trailer, which they are not. I'd like to say they're not, but I can't use Arcadia to source where they were confirmed. Gamepro also sources Arcadia. Can we source Arcadia now? I'm confused. KristiRenee 20:28, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Read the section above this one. King Zeal 20:53, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Okay. KristiRenee 21:12, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Confirmed Characters

Maybe I'm missing something here, but how does anyone know Yoshimitsu and Marshall Law are returning? Yoshimitsu has been referenced in all Namco fighters to date but if he can be confirmed, why not Heihachi? Or Paul, or Nina? Also, what is stopping Forrest Law from making a possible comeback...?--Dlae 10:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Read the "Arcadia Magazine" section above. King Zeal 10:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Katsuhiro HARADA not Hirada...

I've changed the article a few times and it was reverted back to Hirada each time....

The proper spelling for the game's producer is HARADA....

Please correct this... SD TEKKEN 20:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, according to IGN it is Hirada, not Harada. On the other hand, Gamepro spells it as Harada, however, it got all that information from the Tekken Zaibatsu. I myself would go with Hirada.Michael Mad 14:12, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

This is N8nmonster of TZ forums and SDTEKKEN.com, screenshot taken from credits:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/176/475919158_f192d8347f.jpg N8nmonster 21:02, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

On sunlightyellow.com[3] there are what appear to be Tekken 6 character biographies for Leo, Zafina , Kazuya, Heihachi and Yoshimitsu. It is in Japanese(if I'm right) and I'm having a hard time translating it. Could anyone here translate it and see if it is official?Michael Mad 18:52, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

It is official. Check SDTEKKEN.COM[4] and also, the thing about Harada(above), it even says Harada in the game credits... IGN is wackos... SD TEKKEN 20:42, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

The point of Yoshimitsu's sword being cursed could be a reference to Soul Calibur. Between Soul Calibur and Soul Calibur 2, the Yoshimitsu of Soul Calibur(the possible ancestor of the Tekken Yoshimitsu) notices that his sword has been cursed while at Ostrheinsburg(where the finale of Soul Calibur took place), possibly by the evil of Soul Edge. By Soul Calibur 3, his sword is still cursed. Going on that the Soul Calibur Yoshimitsu never removed the curse from his sword, the Yoshimitsu of Tekken still has a sword cursed by Soul Edge. This would make sense seeing how Yoshimitsu can only retain the sword's power by killing(albeit, killing evildoers).Michael Mad 22:19, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

does that really matter???

[edit] New Information + Scan

New information here that is confirmed by Namco(source Arcadia Magazine, translation/handling by SD TEKKEN... check SDTEKKEN.COM/tekken-6[5] SD TEKKEN 20:49, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Leo and Lili - familial connection?

Is there a familial connection between Leo and Lili? Angie Y. 20:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

It's a bit early to say, don't you think ^__~ --Dlae 13:05, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Well... yeah...but wouldn't it be awesome if they were related? And WHY is Leo's article gone?! Angie Y. 21:13, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

It's really not worth doing one yet IMO, seeing as there is not enough known about [Leo] e.g move techniques, epilogues etc as well as a lack of unveiled images and character renders. The page would look nothing like THIS ONE, anyway--Dlae 23:19, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Why would there be a connection between those two?

arent they from different countries

[edit] New Character Miguel added to main article...

New character Miguel is set to debut in the July issue of Arcadia Magazine... information on SDTEKKEN ...

And please, let's not doubt this, Arcadia is as official as it gets... SD TEKKEN 02:32, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Can't you link to the pic? The way you're setting it up seems like blatant attempts to get hits for your site. King Zeal 02:58, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clean Tekken 6 Logo

I got a clean version of the Tekken 6 logo without the Gemaga watermark, unfortunately I don't know how to edit the main article... here it is if someone wants to do it: TEKKEN 6 LOGO SD TEKKEN 21:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More Characters Confirmed + Pics

Hi guys, more characters have been confirmed, here are pictures from the private show that show them in screens. Someone please update the main article(I don't want to mess it up!) lol...

o Devil Jin
o Paul Phoenix
o Zafina
o Miguel
o Bruce Irvin
o Marshall Law
o Lili
o Lei
o Leo
o Dragunov
o Asuka
o King
o Armor King
o Eddy
o Christie
o Steve
o Bryan
o Julia
o Feng Wei
o Jack-6
o Jin
o Hwoarang
o Nina
o Kazuya
o Wang
o Anna
o Yoshimitsu
o Heihachi


Picture is here: T6 Arcade Ad

NEWS SOURCE: SD TEKKEN - TEKKEN 6 NEWS BLOG
SD TEKKEN 22:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it is Jack-5, not Jack-6. The table says Jack-5[6]. Michael Mad 21:20, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Looks like the table was wrong... The gameplay footage that has been going around indicates it is Jack-6 and this Namco movelist at the location testing shows it is Jack-6 T6 MOVE LIST ... Can someone change the main article please? SD TEKKEN 13:30, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Okay, this is ridiculous

How many of these characters can we actually confirm independently of SDTekken? I respect the fact that SDTekken has pics and articles to back up their news, but pics are too easily faked. We're going to need another site like Gamepro or IGN to start corroborating this news before we keep it. King Zeal 09:39, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, IGN do have an article about the testing, but it doesn't really confirm what characters will be in it. I'm not so sure what Gamepro have on the game. As for the other big videogames site, GameSpot, well, as usual, they have nothing recent on the game, which I find quite unsurprising. Well, for the most part, there is a video on SDTekken showing the numerous characters and features of the game, so at least any characters that appear in that video are pretty much confirmed. As of now, it sadly appears that SDTekken is all we have. Michael Mad 12:54, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I can understand that you guys may see us as a 'fan' site and think we might not have as much credibility as IGN, Gamepro, etc... (in fact they are millions of times more credible than us)... but in the end, it's just as you said, there is NO one else providing up to date news on the game other than us... If you check Tekken Zaibatsu and SD TEKKEN we are posting up information as we get it... I can assure you that the news we are putting up, we make sure the source is credible(or we have evidence to back it up)... But I will continue to update/provide news whenever I receive it(I constantly keep in contact with Japanese players that attend these arcade shows)... So expect more news whenever it comes out... ^_^ SD TEKKEN 09:19, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, at least E3 is just around the corner, and then we will have plenty of credible sources for this article(that is, if Tekken 6 is at E3, which it probably will be). Michael Mad 20:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I just noticed that SDTekken has been removed from the reference section. Seeing as the information about Miguel and the confirmed characters came from that source and continues to stay in the article, isn't it a little contradictory to keep SDTekken off as the source? Yes yes, we know that a blog isn't a reputable source (although it's the only one at this time), so why is the information provided by SDTekken acceptable, but the source still viewed as non-credible? I don't know why the SDTekken references were removed, but whomever did so please explain why SDTekken was removed, but the information about Miguel/confirmed characters wasn't. Otherwise, will there be any objections if I restore SDTekken as the source? That's all. Byxbee 05:12, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Until the likes of GameSpot or IGN actually do an article that describes the many characters and features of Tekken 6 in detail, go on ahead and restore SDTekken as the source. Michael Mad 10:00, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

To add to SDT credibility, GameSpot, GamePro, GameTrailers, IGN and 1UP have sourced SDTEKKEN.COM before... (IGN and 1UP removed their articles later though for some reason lol)... SD TEKKEN 22:16, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unknown Character

Go to tekkenpedia and search Unknown Character. It's one of the new characters yet to be named. You can add it to the new characters section 124.190.56.58 09:33, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

We could just wait until the character has a name. King Zeal 12:28, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
I know we can't just name the character "Unknown Character" like I did on Tekkenpedia, but I think that this character needs to be mentioned somewhere. JunKazamaFan 19:09, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
He has. His name is now Miguel Caballero Rojo. King Zeal 19:12, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
I am not talking about Miguel Caballero Rojo. I am talking about the character that has been featured in the silent Tekken 6 trailer and the Tekken 6 Arcade opening. This is the character that I (as well as 124.190.56.58) am talking about: http://www.tekkenpedia.com/wiki/Unknown_Character. 20:39, 16 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by JunKazamaFan (talk • contribs)
That thing is not yet a real character. He currently has no name and no story. 71.255.87.220 20:52, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
But I believe that its appearance should be noted, as it has appeared in official Tekken 6 videos. JunKazamaFan 20:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
It already is. 71.255.87.220 00:52, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I know. I'm just stating my opinions about why it should be noted. JunKazamaFan 20:35, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Administrator...here....

Mr. Administrator: If only you can edit this article...please...change the name "Miguel" by "Miguel Caballero Rojo". The official page copnfirmed that thi's the name...

You're kidding right? You're not fooling anyone. Byxbee 07:14, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
No, he's actually right. [7]--BD Third 00:37, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
No no, I'm talking about him calling himself an "Administrator". Byxbee 06:26, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
He wasn't. He assumed that that only admins could edit this article and was trying to address one.--BD Third 01:33, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Oops, you're right. I read the message too quickly, my bad. I apologize to you, anon user. Byxbee 07:35, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

"Miguel Caballero Rojo" from Tekken-Official.jp:
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/characters/miguel.html N8nmonster 20:49, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kuma

Where was Kuma confirmed at? KristiRenee 22:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Appearantly, he was seen in a picture(a very poor quality picture at that) of the character select screen. Michael Mad 22:40, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay. Well, seven of Kuma's moves have been described at http://sdtekken.com (on this page), so that's also confirming Kuma's appearance in Tekken 6. I found that page about an hour ago. KristiRenee 10:51, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Movelist insert

From http://sdtekken.com/tekken-6/, snapshots of movelist insert/ confirmed characters (includes Jack-6, Christie/Eddy, Kuma/Panda listed):

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1146/753193113_760c26c62d_o.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1029/753193119_79ba71e7fa_o.jpg

--N8nmonster 19:42, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Check out this page "Translated from japanese" about tekken 6 characters: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sunlightyellow.com%2Ftekken6%2F&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8

[edit] marshall law

its definetly marshall law so stop changing it. its on youtube watch the beta nad one of the characters on the select screen is marshall law.

[edit] Unknown

Is there any source to back up the claim that Unknown will be in this game? If not, I'll delete that statement. Michael Mad 12:39, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I have not seen anything in regards to Unknown... I've asked some sources as well... SD TEKKEN 13:16, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

It says "A local source has revealed the character, Unknown, was to appear in the 6th installment". A local source? Michael Mad 13:29, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TEKKEN 6 Developer's Interview

Thought you guys might be interested in this interview:

TEKKEN 6 Development Interview

SD TEKKEN 13:17, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mokujin

This might be a stupid question, but has Mokujin been confirmed (as he isn't on the list). --Chaosbladeuk 12:01, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Ya he was...long, long time ago =P Jaewonnie (talk) 02:10, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Confirmed List Removal

Recently, I removed the confirmed list from the Tekken 6 page. My reasons for doing so were because too much of the page's info was being given by a site that goes against Wikipedia's policy for verifiability. This is not to be a bad reflection on SDTekken, but they simply are not an encyclopedic source. Furthermore, in taking away their contributions to the "confirmed" list, it also makes sense to take away every other character other than the "new" ones that have been confirmed by Namco themselves. And lastly, since it seems that MOST Tekken characters are now returning anyway, keeping the list going only detracts from the page as it simply becomes a longer and more cumbersome list. At this point, it would be more effective to list the characters who are confirmed to NOT return. King Zeal 12:58, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Good decision. The list was simply getting too long. Byxbee 01:35, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

What the hell? Before the release of the game, the confirmed character list (complete with bios and some vital info) is only on the official site. I see this article is edited nearly every day! Either do like the official site says, or just don't mess it! Will change it now. Echad 22:42, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I added in all the characters that appear on that site, and removed all the rest. King Zeal 22:56, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Stop these useless edits and all this stupid banter! Official site has a list of OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED AND OFFICIALLY NAMED CHARACTERS... Sceenshot characters are not confirmed, due to the thing, that no one relly knows, how the Jack will be named, or what Law is this, and so on... I will return the list AS IT IS on the OFFICIAL page with character bios... The biographies are in Japanese, but the names of the characters are rendered in English. Echad 02:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Hopefully, that'll stop some of the speculation and reversion for a while. King Zeal 12:09, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

You guys are so anal and idiotic... I stopped caring/thinking this wiki page was credible awhile ago... , I mean you got some crybabies like King Zeal running around with his 'official' bag.. I know wiki and how it works, but come on, this guy isn't part of the Tekken police force lol.... <3 Big thanks to everyone that has been putting up REAL updates

"Anal idiotics"? This is something new... =\ I think the most idiotic is the one, who puts Kunimitsu and both Forrest and Marshall Laws on the list. And the real updates are gone for some time. The last update was at the start of august at tekken-official.jp, they added new screenshots and character profiles... And, BTW, anal guy, if you stopped caring about Tekken 6 page, then stop worrying about the talk one... It has alot of trash already, I think, as the game arrives, it should be cleaned... Echad 10:35, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Would a Japanese Magazine containing information on characters count ([8][9][10]), or is that not official enough for you guys, since it is scanned? --Hecko 08:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
We have to use official English sources. Otherwise, we're relying on fan-scans and translations . . . which is pretty much saying that fansites are our sources. King Zeal 12:43, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
What about actual gameplay videos (of the arcade version), they're pretty offical, even though they aren't on the official site? Unless everyone thinks they've been faked too... As a "just-in-case", I'm gonna add the characters I've seen videos of. If this is a problem for anyone, undo the edit, BUT LET ME KNOW ON THIS TALK PAGE. --Hecko 07:49, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
If it's not definitely official ("pretty official" doesn't count), then we can't add it. King Zeal 12:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
"pretty official" is a mannerism of speech simply meaning that it is official ("pretty" is used as a filler word, sometimes substituting the word "very"). What really seems to matter here is how you seem to view what is official or not, so it's more of a definition issue we have on our hands (I am in no way try to launch a personal attack, but it seems that you are the most active on this article, which is why I see it as important that we all get what you mean). So I'll boil it down in an attempt to avoid long discussions. An arcade version of T6 has already been released in Japan and people have not only played it, but recorded actual gameplay and put it out on the web, i.e. the footage is directly from the game, i.e. it is official (I mean, if you can't even call the game official, nothing will be). Hence all video footage (which cannot be edited or falsified in the same matter that magazine scans can) should (and I said should because I see no problem in it, however, you seem to do) be considered completely official and any character name seen on the screen is therefor a confirmed character to be in the game (since they are actually seen, being played, in the game). And on a sidenote, the quest of "only adding them to the list when they appear on the official character page", while it may be a "noble cause", is way to long to wait for information that you basically already have confirmed. It's like waiting for Starbucks to open so that you can drink a cup of coffee, while your already sitting with a full mug of freshly made coffee in your hand. Okay, that last part might have been a bit confusing, but in a sense, do you consider actual footage, from the actual game, with the actual names of the characters being completely visible on the screen, as official or not? I mean, I can see if it was for the official character story that you would want to wait, but this is a simple "Is this character in the game? yes/no" situation, the gameplay footage is a clear yes to many of them, so why not add it (in a nice 3-4 coloumn list so it doesn't take up too much space)? --Hecko 14:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Let me tell you the problem I see with your "Starbucks" analogy.
Imagine that you are, indeed, standing in front of Starbucks with a cup of coffee in your hand. Now, let's assume that someone just walked up and handed you a cup of coffee inside a Starbucks cup. The real question is: How do you know it's Starbuck's coffee? Who was the person who gave you the coffee? I'm sure that if a Starbucks representative gave you the cup of coffee, you'd accept it, but what if some random person from the street handed to you, smiled and said, "Don't worry...it's real. Go ahead and drink." Would you be more suspicious?
Again, as it was explained to me by someone else, the main credo of Wikipedia is not truth, but verifiabiliy. Everything that's put on the site has to come from a source that can be completely and unquestionably verified. For something like an unreleased videogame, the only things that fit the bill are certified news sources (such as 1up, Gamepro, EGM, or even something like Wizard Magazine). Uploaded pics, images, and sources that are not in English can not be counted because it relies on you accepting the word of whoever uploaded it. Again, we're back to accepting something that LOOKS like Starbucks coffee, smells like Starbucks coffee, and, perhaps even tastes like it . . . but coming from a source that isn't exactly accountable. Do you see where I'm going? King Zeal 16:30, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
You missed the point of my analogy, I wasn't trying to "compare" per se, I was trying to say that if you already have what you want readilly available, right here and now, then why wait until later just to get the same thing? Don't get me wrong, I see where your comming from with you "analasys", but no matter how you analyse it, you still end up with a cup of coffee (i.e. you don't want the game story of the character, you just want to know if the character is in the game, which doesn't require strict sources that the Wiki seems to accept to find out). This leads us to the truth vs verifiability. And I can see what you mean, to a certain extent, but this is due to a personal oppinion. If I see two people play Tekken 6 on the arcade, one playing as Jack-6, the other as Ganryu, there wouldn't be a doubt in my mind that Jack-6 and Ganryu were in the game. That was the truth part. If I recorded it and uploaded it to the Internet, I would have verifiable proof that they were in the game (anyone who saw the video would be able to verify that it is true). However, this leads us to uploaded videos not being considered a usable source on the wiki, meaning I'm back to square one, not having anything the Wiki would accept, despite having everything I need in order to remove anyone's doubt about it (The personal oppinion being that while I can definately see the point of this policy when discussing matters where the answer is something other than "yes/no", as it is inane in those situations). However, I would like to state the obvious. A magazine scan is just that, a scan of a magazine, meaning that anyone who owns said magazine will be able to verify its authenticity. What language the magazine is in is completely irrelevant, as it doesn't make the information any less true. And this is a fact, because the wiki has used sources in languages other than English many times before, including when it comes to games, and often these sources where in printed form that only those with the actual book (or whatever), speaking the language the information was printed in, were able to verify was true. Why should this game then be any different? Especially since you say it is unreleased, which is (at least partially) incorrect. Arcade machines with Tekken 6 have been made and are in use in Japan. Many Japanese magazines have excellent coverage of the game, which practically none of the English language magazine do, pretending that those excellent sources do not exist just seems extremely stupid to me. But once again, that is just my oppinion. Anyway, I think I said everything I wanted to say, so do whatever you feel is right here and I'll do the same for the Tekkenpedia. Best of luck with this page in the future. P.S. Actually there was one more thing. If the issue of Jap vs Eng magazines is in part about availability, then Famitsu can be bought online, so it's no excuse. As for language, like I said, it shouldn't matter since Japanese-only information has been used as a source on the Wiki before, and even so, we are talking about wether or not a character is in the game or not, simply looking at the pictures in the magazine will be able to tell you that, so you don't need to have any knowledge of the Japanese language to figure it out. Like I said some time before, that would only be relevant if we wanted that character story, which in this case means absolutely nothing. --Hecko 10:42, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
One thing I wanted to focus on was the statement:
"you just want to know if the character is in the game, which doesn't require strict sources that the Wiki seems to accept to find out"
This is why Wikipedia discourages lists (such as a list of "confirmed characters") and trivia sources. Because people tend to believe that since the information is "apparent", that it doesn't need to be sourced. This isn't the case. Absolutely everything in article is supposed to be sourced. No exceptions. In addition the reason why scans and the use of non-English sources is discouraged for this case is because this is still an unfinished product. Namco is still working on the North American version of the game, and for all we know, there could be a huge discrepancy between the English and Japanese versions. (Such as the "Vega/Balrog/M. Bison" thing over in Street Fighter.) But, in any case, I really don't see what's the problem with waiting until the English version is available. Why does it have to be added now? A
And again, remember that Wikipedia is not about truth, but verifiability. Why does this article need to be an exception to the rule? King Zeal 12:30, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
The Street Fighter issue concerned new characters that had their names changed. I doubt the NA version of Tekken 6 would rename characters that have already been named once before in an NA release (it's not impossible, but it is highly unlikely). So the only names that would be changed are the only ones you didn't remove when you removed the list (i.e. Bob, Miguel, Zafina and Leo). As for sources, you could always source the magazine name, number and release date, anyone would be able to verify it then, just by buing that specific issue, and if that fails, Famitsu has a website (as do most other major magazines), so there are plenty of ways to verify the information. But as I said before, you do whatever feels right for you according to whatever policies apply here, no rush, do it whenever you want (or not at all). I'll just focus my energies on the Tekkenpedia instead of here, since the TP has a bit more leash on these kind of things (i.e. they don't descriminate English or Japanese sources). --Hecko 08:15, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Per WP:V: English-language sources should be used in preference to foreign-language sources, assuming the availability of an English-language source of equal quality. There really shouldn't be any problem with using Japanese sources while English ones aren't available. Englishrose 08:56, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Again, the problem isn't the language in and of itself. (After all, aren't we linking to the Japanese Official Tekken Page in the article?) Instead, almost all of the links that were being provided were to either fansites or image hosting sites, which we're not supposed to allow. King Zeal 12:25, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Source. Even if you ignore the images from the magazine showing many of the characters, it verifies the Rage Mode (Headlined: 一発逆転を狙える新システム”レイジモード”"Aim for a one-shot reversal with the new system, "Rage Mode"", or someting like that) which seems to need a citation in this article. --Hecko 13:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
The image source was to back that it's in the magazine, which if I remember correctly was named and sourced. But then there was the argument "we haven't read it", well if that was the case then no books can be used as sources which they clearly can. I can assure you that a screenshot of the magazine is allowed if it's to confirm that it is in the magazine. Englishrose 08:44, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
To quote the WP:REF page:
It is improper to copy a citation from an intermediate source without making clear that you saw only that intermediate source. For example, you might find some information on a web page which says it comes from a certain book. Unless you look at the book yourself to check that the information is there, your reference is really the web page, which is what you must cite. The credibility of the article rests on the credibility of the web page, as well as the book, and the article itself must make that clear.
As I said, if you cite a book/magazine, then the source that links to that page is the true source. And, there are particular sites that are not considered to be "acceptable sources". Now I know that you're saying to yourself, "But we can see the magazine ourselves! We have screenshots and everything!" But then, we have to ask where the screenshots are coming from. King Zeal 12:17, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Was the original editor not the one who saw the source then got reversed, then scanned the magazine? As we know "where" it is from as it is from the Famitsu magazine as stated before. Englishrose 12:30, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
He scanned the image and then uploaded it to what site? That's what I'm trying to emphasize. King Zeal 12:38, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
What does it matter if he scanned it? By scanning it, it would mean that he has the actual magazine, i.e. the "primary source" (equivalent to "the book" in your quote). He could plaster it on any website he wanted and it would be totally irrelevant to this, as the source he' initially got it from would still be the Famitsu magazine (and in some cases, the homepage of said magazine). This is of course presuming he scanned the magazine images himself or that the scans were made from an issue of the magazine that he has seen first-hand. --Hecko 22:19, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Okay, so what's stopping me from scanning any random Japanese magazine I want and claiming that it says Ken Masters will be a playable character in Tekken 6? King Zeal 12:47, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

I think we should add other characters that has been seen on screenshots with the screenshots as references, and the screenshots should be directly taken from Tekken-Official (for example, http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/image/image_screenshots/tk6_01_78.jpg, which can be used for reference for Ganryu, and it is directly taken from Tekken-Official as you may notice). I've something like that as can be seen in this version, but it was deleted. This shpuld be done in this way I think, since the screenshots come directly from Tekken-Official, they are not fake, they refer to the characters whilst showcasing them very clear, and they can be used for verifying the other confirmed characters, therefore it wouldn't be speculating or such. What do you think? Master Spider 15:51, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Works for me. The same would using the images seen on [11], since that's a major magazine that has great coverage on Tekken 6, but King Zeal doesn't seem to want to allow it. As for your question, King Zeal, absolutely noone is stopping you, but you would have to supply the name, issue and release date of the magazine you used as a source (possibly also the pages of the magazine where the info is), so that anyone would be able to check wether it's true or not by looking through an issue of the magazine you specify. Otherwise, it won't stick. --Hecko 17:19, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't have a problem with Famitsu or Tekken-Official being used as sources. Hell, they've both been used on this page before (and currently).
I'm aware that all of that would have to be cited, but how would anyone without access to Japanese publications (in short, anyone not residing in Japan) be able to vouch? King Zeal 18:15, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
But aren't Japanese users on here already vouching? Englishrose 18:38, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
It's a slippery slope. Anyone can come on the site and claim to be Japanese and have seen something that can only be verified by a small percentage of people. Don't get me wrong, though. I'm not saying that nothing in Japanese is acceptable as a source. It's just that, for as long as this article's been up, we've had several people coming in to add just about any they feel like, and on several occasions, there's been faked pics. What I'm simply after is making absolutely positive that every single thing added to the article can be verified by anyone without having to learn Japanese to do so.King Zeal 20:07, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Quoting myself from a week ago: "Actually there was one more thing. If the issue of Jap vs Eng magazines is in part about availability, then Famitsu can be bought online, so it's no excuse. As for language, like I said, it shouldn't matter since Japanese-only information has been used as a source on the Wiki before, and even so, we are talking about wether or not a character is in the game or not, simply looking at the pictures in the magazine will be able to tell you that, so you don't need to have any knowledge of the Japanese language to figure it out. Like I said some time before, that would only be relevant if we wanted that character story, which in this case means absolutely nothing." --Hecko 23:34, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm really tired of debating this. I'm washing my hands of the whole affair and leaving it up to you guys to do as you please. King Zeal 02:13, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Online play

Is it true that this game is to have a online-play function?

Namco confimed it in various interviews... Here's the source. Another one and also here. Hope this is enough! Echad 10:28, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleaning the page...

Hello everybody, I think this page got too much of useless info and speculation... I think it should be cleaned of all the stuff, that is known now... For example the XBOX-360 stuff, or the numeous character speculations... This page is too long and too useless. Someone agrees? Echad 10:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Just archive it rather than deleting everything. King Zeal 12:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Ok, so someone should archive it at the time the game will be released at the arcades... Because before the release it is useless, due to increasing numbers of speculators. Echad 14:04, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Good God this game is out in the aracades and all the speculation on it is a masive waste of space. Someone just delete it before I nuke the lot.Zelphi (talk) 11:30, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

HEY! It is out frickin' long ago! There are more text in character confirm/uncorfirm scat talk, than in whole Tekken 6 article! CAN someone already ARCHIVE this useless mind-consuming scroll-time-wasting and bandwidth uncompromising waste of bytes, or should I just erase it for Hell's sake?! Rly, no need to provide magazine or site source for characters once the game is out. GAME = SOURCE! Duh! Echad (talk) 01:34, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Me, again - just checked it once again - because of TEKKEN 6 talk page on Wikipedia, I learned of Asperger's Syndrome, who is 26 years old, having a Platonic and Sapphistic love without (or with?) giving Wikipedia a bad name, requesting source for every word used in the game, as if Namco, Tekken 6 Official Site, Arcadia Magazine, Youtube and SDTekkken are not enough. Also I thank the article on expanding my vocabulary with the word "compramice", which probably stands for some sort of vermin... The compramice thingy takes half of page, BTW! ;) I ask you, people - IS THIS INFORMATION REALLY NEEDED ON Tekken 6 Encyclopedic page? Will purge it myself if someone won't archive it in a few days. =) Echad (talk) 01:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Confirmation of returning characters

I don't think that we need to wait for a character's addition to the official site for adding it to the confirmed characters list. There are many other characters to be confirmed, but hasn't added to the official site yet:

  • Lili — her render can be found on a japanese magazine (along with the renders of Leo, Zafina, Miguel and Dragunov). Why Namco-Bandai would release a new render of her if she isn't going to return?
  • Anna Williams — she has an item move (she throws her high heel shoes as you know). Why Namco-Bandai would give her an item move if she isn't going to return? I can understand that if she was simply added to the beta test without any additions (like most of the characters at the beta test), but she has also given an item move-she has been made an addition. again, why Namco-Bandai would make additions to her if she isn't going to return?
  • Craig Marduk — he also has an item move (he has an iron rod as you know). His situation is same as Anna.
  • Marshall or Forrest Law — his stances are completely modified. Why Namco-Bandai would waste thier time on this if Law isn't going to return? He also has an item move (as you know, nunchaku). See Anna for a deep explanation :D By the way, since we don't know which Law is returning, we can omit him and not to add him to the list.

These are my opinions, thanks for your concern! Master Spider 15:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Exactly what I'm saying. Why would Namco-Bandai waste their time making characters that they're not going to use? Bryan with a shotgun? Jack with customs? Anna and her shoe? It's ridiculous that people like Echad and King Zeal ruin it for everyone by taking it down? That's not what the Tekken fandom is about. I mean, most of the characters seen in screenshots and trailers don't even have to be officially named. We already know they're going to be in the game.

Well I think it's cuz King Zeal is a flaming internet cop wannabe... + idiot. That's why Wiki = THUMBS DOWN for up to date news when it comes to topics like these(unreleased games)...

I have no trouble adding characters to the page as long as they can be sourced with a credible website. Personal websites, fansites, and scanned magazine articles do not count as credible sources. King Zeal 09:17, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
King Zeal is totally correct on where he stands on this issue. The amount of fake/ unsourced additions to the list was crazy. Michael Mad 14:59, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm surprised you lot haven't realised what Wiki is about by now. You can't add anything without idiots needing confirmation, even if it's a fact as clear as day. For example, you are not allowed to say Law is confirmed even though he has been seen in videos AND has been on every single Tekken game (and don't you dare come back with "he wasn't in Tekken 3" - same moves list, same name, same Tekken character - but with a different plot). Anyone would bet their life that Law will be on Teken 6 but you need a source from a "credible website" (something that Wiki never will be but idiots with their citations and sources think they are working towards). I used to be a registered user on here but I've stopped logging in and editing because fellow users are the most annoying people in the world and are ruining it. Whether it's pro nintendo fans who try their hardest to put Wii/Gamecube box art on all multi format games, or the cretins that fill the man-child subject of Sonic The Hedgehog cartoons to a level more detailed than George Bush's page - I am sick of these geeks who have nothing better to do than police insignificant articles like this one. The amount of life these people have wasted is insane. I have seen King Zeal for example reverting people's edits on games pages too many times to count. When these people have a wife and kids and are all grown up, they will realise just how pointless all this was. And don't delete this comment, its a valid one about how something needs to be changed, the characters are confirmed. Why is it that all pages like this are run by one or two random idiots who have taken it upon themselves to police them? 86.149.38.188 13:14, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
No, you've forgotten what the Wikipedia ia about. You've been using this talk page to critise Tekken 6, when really this page should be used to discuss how to make the article better. Oh, and if you don't like the Wikipedia, then you can go away you intellectually-challenged troll. Michael Mad 13:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
I already said "I was going away", can't you digest basic information? Another retard... Oh and by the way, a 15 year old doesn't even know the basic things about life, and you are the one telling people what they should and shouldn't do. What a mockery this is, someone is policing this article who isn't even old enough to remember Tekken 2. His first experience of Tekken is Laser Scrapering people to high-heaven on Tekken 4, and he has the cheek to tell other people what not to write. Now p!ss off, and spend your next 4 hours looking at Transformers cartoon's pages to look for things to revert. 86.149.38.188 13:30, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, so being older makes you the superior being, eh? This agism is unsurprising; trolls do usually resort to some sort of bigotry to defend themselves. I may not know much about life, or atleast, according to you anyway, but I do know much about Wikipedia. The fact that you have to resort to profanities shows me how immature you are, yet you have the cheek to claim that I am immature simply because I can't remember Tekken 2. The Wikipedia is not a forum, yet you insist that your comment about how big a disappointment Tekken 6 is(despite the fact that you have yet to play it, unless of course you happened to be in Japan at the time of the Beta testing) should be let undeleted.

Your critising of the Wikipedia is far less meaningful than my editing of it. Also, we can make what we want of our lives; what should we be doing instead of editing the Wikipedia? In fact, what else can you do if you suffer from a disorder that makes you uninterested in sports and unable to have any meanfulingful relationships, platonic or sexual, and express yourself? What would you do if you were unwillingly dettached from the world? What would you do if you suffered from Asperger Syndrome? Michael Mad 15:15, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Just to interject, I'm 26 years old, and I'm quite grown up, thank you very much. However, while I agree that it's almost certain that characters such as Law will return, you can't fill an article based on guesswork. If you want a good example of why, check out the archived Talk page for Resident Evil 5. There's a member on there who tries to use original research and superbly detailed and thorough speculation in order to justify why he believed the main character of the game would be Billy Coen instead of Chris Redfield. Unfortunately, when Capcom actually RELEASED their press statement, it turned out that the main character is, indeed, Chris Redfield. So much for that.
Another example would be Raven whom everyone used to believe was an OBVIOUS throwback to the character of [[Blade {film}|Blade]]. However, when Electronic Gaming Monthly directly asked them if that was the case, Namco stated that it was just a coincidence. Oops.
The way it was explained to me, Wikipedia is not about "truth", but "verifiability". It's not about "what everybody knows" or "common sense". It's about what you can provide proof for. King Zeal 19:11, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

"Another example would be Raven whom everyone used to believe was an OBVIOUS throwback to the character of [[Blade {film}|Blade]]. However, when Electronic Gaming Monthly directly asked them if that was the case, Namco stated that it was just a coincidence. Oops."

Well maybe if you had a Wiki page, this would be the place to cite the fact that you believe bullshit. Namco can pretend all they want that Raven isn't a Blade influenced character. Maybe Namco wanted to create a character similar to Blade, but ended up with one virtually identical and now they deny all similarities to avoid being sued. Hardly proof is it? And yes I stand by my comments. Editing Wiki is a pointless excercise and the biggest waste of a person's time - especially the one's who are checking articles night and day for reverts. Go out and do something wothwhile. This is the last I'll say. 86.149.38.188 14:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Oh, sure, it must be the last if you said it, even if you said that you were leaving yesterday. Michael Mad 15:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Wow, a lot of things hase written here... First, King Zeal is not a flaming internet cop wannabe or an idiot lol, he's trying to do the right thing for Wiki. Second, I have added the rest of the characters apart from the characters having their biographies released, and I put the "Screenshots" page of the official site as a source. I hope it helps. Master Spider 14:23, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Agree' with Master Spider. Englishrose 18:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

They weren't officially named.72.68.1.110 05:27, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Do they need to be named officially? They are recognizable on the screenshots. For example, we all know that Christie Monteiro's name is Christie Monteiro. She doesn't need to be officially named-what, does she have another name? If it is going to be like that, then we should add all characters that has seen on the screenshots as "unknown characters" or "unnamed characters". Plus, these screenshots comes from an official site, Tekken-Official TK6AC screenshot page, which means that they are indeed confirmed to appear in the game. What, they have appeared on the screenshots for nothing? Master Spider 13:55, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
But they weren't officially named. You don't know who it is in the screen shots. You can't assume that the characters are the same. It is the same with Marshall Law and Forest Law incident.72.68.1.110 22:38, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Well Master Spider, you stick up for the Wiki police and now one disagrees with you and you are arguing with them. Don't stick up for these cretins as they will always p!ss you off. Do what I've done and just stop being involved in editing this cess pool for losers. Everytime I see some stupid comment, false fact or embarrassing grammar or spelling, I just leave it, as it doesn't deserve putting right by someone who knows their onions. All the edits I've done on other pages always stay, as they aren't run by childish idiots. So, if I were you, I would either stop editing Wiki or at least stay away from the childish subject of video games, as the users milling around here are usually brain dead twats with nothing better to do than check hundreds of articles every day for new edits to revert. 86.149.38.188 17:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Will you ever leave you hypocritical, profane, ignorant and intellectually challenged troll? You said that you were leaving and yet you keep coming back. You're a "loser", as you put it, coming here, shouting, arguing, trying to show that what you think is right, acting like a crusader. Editing on the Wikipedia has done me much good. Editing here has improved my computer skills, broadened my vocabulary and made me smarter. That is what editing the Wikipedia has done for me. Do you have anything else to be doing instead of harassing Wikipedians? Now please leave. No need to answer the two questions I have asked. Just leave please. Trolls like you have given the Wikipedia a bad name. That and perhaps our policy to allow non-registered users to edit. Michael Mad 18:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Compramise

OK, we know that characters have been spotted in screenshots and some people want to include them and some don't. By stating that these characters spotted resemble previous characters, may have different names and are NOT confirmed, would allow that list of characters in screenshots to be used. Just as long it's made clear that they are not confirmed. Englishrose 18:43, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I would like to say that Marshall and Forrest are the only characters having identical visual attires, and any other characters are so different that can be easily recognized from their looks, if we do not count customizations. Just tell me if there are any other characters that resemble each other (maybe Kuma and Panda, lol). For example, does Craig Marduk resemble another character? He's big enough to differ from other characters that appear to be in the roster. Any other examples can be given. Master Spider 09:11, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Do you know what officially named means? Pictures are not names. 71.251.42.252 07:13, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
I know what it means, but as I'm saying again, we don't need to wait for all characters officially named, since all of them have visually different and easily recognizable, non-identical character models (Marshall and Forrest Law being exceptions, hence this is the reason why I never added one of them to the list). By looking at the pictures, you can easily identify who is who (again, Marshall and Forrest are the only exceptions). Each character also has different visual features-you know, does each character have identical twin siblings? It can't be.
And, by the way, all of the characters have officially named actually. Their names can be seen on the move list published at the beta test locations and Japanese arcade magazines. Master Spider 14:45, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
I completley I agree with Master Spider, I also don't need to patronised that pictures are not names.Englishrose 16:41, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
"Each character also has different visual features-you know, does each character have identical twin siblings? It can't be"
You seem to be confused on what confirmed means. How do you know? The game is not released yet. Even if you know inside info you still have to put a source in English. Expected does not mean confirmed.71.125.80.19 23:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
"Characters with a strong likeness of listed characters have appeared on the screenshots released on the screenshot section of the official page", this sentence does not suggest that they are confirmed. Merely that their images has appeared in screenshots. Thus, I think you are getting confused with the sentence. Englishrose 09:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Are you supposed to put them in if they are not confirmed?71.125.80.19 21:00, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Like said before, why the hell would Namco-Bandai waste their time creating the characters to end up not putting them in? It's almost like making cake batter but not even making the cake. We've all seen them in screenshots. We've seen them in beta test videos. We've seen them being played. Why the hell do they HAVE TO be officially named when you KNOW they're going to be end up being in the final release anyway? It's pointless really. You know. I'm glad they're not updating the website right now. It goes to show that they're actually working on the game and fixing bug issues as well as working on Tekken 5 DR Online instead of wasting time trying to give internet police a life.
Do you know what confirmed means? You are not supposed to make assumptions.
Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. No matter how much a picture looks like a returning character or how many appearances they've made in the past, you can't speculate and add those characters to the list. Not until there's an official source either from Namco or an independent site such as Gamepro, IGN, or 1up. This is the 21st century and scanned images and photographs are too easy to fake. That aside, I don't see the harm in waiting, personally. People are acting as if characters don't get added ASAP, that somehow Namco is going to change their mind and take the character out or something.
Also--the second the list of returning characters becomes more than twenty, it's not worth even listing the characters any more. Having such a ridiculously long list of playable characters is just going to clutter the page. At that point, it would be easier to include characters that are confirmed to be excluded. King Zeal 01:17, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes, it's very esay to fake an image that we can already OFFICIALLY see on Tekken-Official.jp...nice logic... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.105.81.86 (talk) 08:01, August 29, 2007 (UTC)
What part of "scanned images and photographs" did you not understand? King Zeal 12:31, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
To the anon IP (71.125.80.19): I know what confirmed means, and I am not confused on its meaning. And, I know that "expected" means not "confirmed", but how can you call them "expected" when they are appearing on the screenshots? The screenshots are not blurry or such, as you can identify the characters from the screenshots. If they have appeared on screenshots, that means they are going to appear in Tekken 6. If they are not, why they have appeared on the screenshots? For nothing? And, I know that I'm not supposed to make assumptions, and I'm indeed not making assumptions, I'm just lokking at the screenshots and adding to the article what I'm seeing, and what I'm seeing is that nearly all of the Dark Resurrection characters are going to appear in Tekken 6. Plus, these screenshots aren't fake, they are released by Namco-Bandai, so they are official, and that means the characters appeared on the screenshots are set to appear, they are no longer expected, and this is not an assumption either.
To King Zeal: I know that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, and what I'm doing is not speculating. I know that scanned images and photographs are very easy to fake, but the screenshots that I added to the article are not scanned images, they are screenshots released by Namco-Bandai on the official site of Tekken, which means that they are official, not fake. Why Namco-Bandai would release fake screenshots? For just playing games with people? That's ridiculous.
Plus, we have already seen them on Japan arcade beta test. For example, this image shows the select screen in beta test (the clearest image that I could find, and it's not fake), and all of the mugshots of the characters are visible enough. Feng and Bryan are selected, and their names are visible, as well as their figures. Apart from their images and appearances, why Namco-Bandai would put all these characters into the beta test and make them playable in arcade machines, if they are not going to appear in the final product?
Another proof would be this poster, which showcases many characters from Dark Resurrection along with Leo, Zafina and Miguel (this one is not fake as well). All of these CG poses are never seen before, their CG images (or renders) are new. Why Namco-Bandai would release new poses for many characters, if they are not going to add some of them to the final product? More, importantly, why these characters would appear in such posters if they are not going to appear?
And, in the vs. fighting video game articles, the returning characters section does not clutter the article, instead it expand the article and adds to the article. If you're saying that it would clutter the page because it is a very long list that consists lots of characters, see Mortal Kombat: Armageddon article-there are 65 returning characters, and it looks very nice.
Well, what happened after my last reply? The biographies for Lili, Law, Steve and Paul released, and Bob is unveiled. I (and many people) knew that all of these characters are returning (with the exception of Bob lol, he's another new character). I added them too, but you've waited their biographies before adding them to the page. And I know that many other characters will return, but all you're doing is waiting for all other characters' biography releases before adding them, and doing nothing, with the exception of removing them from the article. I know that their biographies will be released, but removing them from the article while knowing that they will appear on the final product sounds just stupid-if not, ridiculous, to me. Let me tell you what will happen: all of the other characters' biographies will be released later on, then they will be added to the article, and then you'll se that I (and many other people) was trying to do the right thing for Wikipedia by adding them.Master Spider 15:15, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
What I'm saying is that the source of the file has to come from an official page or credible site that is not a fan site. Even if the image is released directly from Namco themselves, if it doesn't appear on Namco's page (or a site such as IGN, Gamepro, 1up, etc.), then we can't add it. That's not a direct source. It's a secondary source.
Also, we are not going to make assumptions about what it does or doesn't make sense for Namco-Bandai to do. Again, the site is not a crystal ball. It's not our place to ask "why would Namco do this?" or say "Namco would never do that". It's up to the editors to make sure that all additions to the article are verifiable. A beta test is just that--a test. It's not the finished product. I don't see what's the big deal of simply waiting.
And finally, I don't agree with you about the MK:Armageddon page. It actually looks kind of screwy. Especially with the margins shifted. It should be tagged for clean-up. King Zeal 16:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Is Tekken-Official a secondary source? Even its URL says that it's official. I gave the image URLs directly from that site (for example, http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/image/image_screenshots/tk6_01_78.jpg). Is Tekken-Official is a fan site? And, I'm not telling that what Namco should do or something like that, I'm just telling what Namco has done-they have added all the characters to Tekken 6, at least there are many proofs showing this (see the poster on my previous answer, for example). Yeah, it is a beta test, and the producers add only finished things (for example, Bob wasn't on it). Also, I think that all proofs shows that this info is verifiable and can be added to the article. I'm not trying to vandalizing the article, or trying to cause a disruption to prove a point, or else.
And, very sorry, somebody has screwed the Armageddon article. It is now fixed, can you look it up again?
By the way, so sorry if being rude in some points, I don't want to act rude, or else, because I don't have a grudge againgst you, actually I like you as an editor because you also want to keep Tekken articles clean just like me. Again, I apologize if I was rude. Master Spider 17:11, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Tekken-Official is fine as a source as long as the pictures link directly to that page. There shouldn't be a problem with that. The pictures that I was actually arguing against were the ones that people were adding which linked to sites like Photobucket or to a fansite like SDTekken. As long as the picture comes from Tekken-Official or an afore-mentioned news site, it's no problem, I'd think.
And lastly, I think an official list of confirmed characters isn't a problem. The problem is, since all confirmed characters haven't been revealed, and Namco is constantly releasing new ones, it's a very unstable list. It just needs to be strictly controlled until the official product has finally been released. King Zeal 21:00, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I've directly linked images that is hosted by Tekken-Official before in this version, however it was removed. If there isn't a problem, can I add images as references as I did in that past version?

And I know that there are still characters that are not revealed. In the AM Tokyo Show (it wasn't a beta test, it was more modified and expanded, therefore it is more than just a beta test), there were still three question marks. As long as their images are not published and their names aren't revealed, I am also against adding fake characters or names of rumored possible returning characters. Many people on Tekken forums want and rumor that Kunimitsu, Jun Kazama, Mokujin and/or Michelle Chang could return, but if they are added to the list that article consists, I will be the first one to remove them until they are unconfirmed. There isn't anything to worry about really, since the list is already strictly controlled by you, me and many other editors. We can add the characters that has appeared in the screenshots hosted by Tekken-Official, and remove the other ones. What do you say? Master Spider 14:04, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Refrence on characters

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1017/984016688_3d9b7177a0_o.jpg http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1187/983157961_ef9fefd528_o.jpg http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1305/984009076_a62c97e4c2_o.jpg

'Comment, this would also be sufficient to say that these have been confirmed by alternative sources. Englishrose 18:45, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Those were not in English. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.80.19 (talk) 23:53, August 27, 2007 (UTC)
Neither is the Official Tekken Site. Englishrose 10:02, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes it is. http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/characters.html 71.125.80.19 00:54, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Character - Bob

Not much is known about him besides an image of him in the latest Arcadia http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5817/1188323226407fz5.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.66.99.93 (talk) 01:46, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

he has a complete back story. BOB

ボブ 格闘の天才ともてはやされ、引き締まった体と整った顔立ちから人気のあったボブだが、体格の大きな相手にどうしても勝てず「ウエイトとパワーを増しつつスピードを保つ」という極めて難しい肉体改造に挑むため表舞台から姿を消した。

数年に渡る肉体改造を終えて帰ってきたボブの変貌に周囲は驚き、失笑したがボブは意に介さず、己の肉体に満足の様子であった。そして機が熟したと見た彼は、その肉体を試すため大会出場を決意する。 (translated by SD Tekken)

Bob

Known as a martial arts genius, with his toned body and handsome face he was very popular. However when he was unable to beat opponents who were larger than he was, Bob became determined to engineer his body to increase power and weight while maintaining speed. For this reason, Bob disappears from the fighting world.

A few years later after completing his body engineering… Everyone around him is shocked at his appearance! Although people are not taking Bob seriously anymore, he is confident about his new found strength. To test his new found power he enters The King of Iron Fist Tournament 6. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trigun1002 (talk • contribs) 04:07, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About Bob

I'd suggest that whoever is removing him stop it already, he's confirmed and everything, even if there isn't much information about him besides that vague background description. We'll just have to wait until Tekken 6 is released to go more in-depth on his character background, but at least keep him listed to remain consistent with the other newcomers. --RallyVincent 00:45, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I have no problem with Bob's inclusion to the article as long as there's a valid source besides that of a fansite or a scanned image. Zafina, Leo and Miguel have all been confirmed by sites like 1up, Gamepro or IGN, as well as magazines like Gamepro and EGM. The only source thus far for Bob comes from unofficially translated fansites. I just want to make sure that everything is verifiable before it's added to the article. King Zeal 00:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't Arcadia Magazine count as a valid source? The only thing un-official I've seen so far regarding this is the translation attempts made by fansites regarding his background. Here's the rest of the scan from Arcadia, including several in-game screenshots. http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/232/theplotliterally039thicjm6.jpg

[edit] Zafina

Is it possible to remake the Zafina page? Its getting quite annoying being redirected back to the Tekken 6 Page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.242.233 (talk) 07:38, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I've seen several other notable websites already reporting on Bob's inclusion in Tekken 6 has well, including Joystiq, G4 and Kotaku. 1UP and IGN haven't posted anything Tekken 6 related in quite sometime, and I doubt Gamepro or EGM will either until the release draws closer. --RallyVincent 01:10, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

You have to put the source and scanned images don't count. 71.125.80.19 03:12, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

is it really that hard to keep bob up there? the source is from an foreign gaming magazine. seeing as the magazine Arcadia, is a valid source plus one of the most trust worthy sites on the internet revolving around Tekken, SD Tekken.http://sdtekken.com/tekken-6/ check it out.plus the scan like suggested above by rallyvincent has in game shots from namco. the creator so i think it would be a good idea to just accept him into the new comers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.85.228.229 (talk) 03:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

No, because Arcadia magazine is not in English. As I've said before, I personally don't have a problem with SDTekken, but we can't get ALL of the article's news from them. For a while, almost EVERY T6 update on the article was from SDTekken, with SDTekken doing all of the updating! That's borderline advertising. Even if everything they say is true, by linking everything in the article directly to their site, they're slanting the page's bias. After all, what'd the difference in adding an article from SDTekken and Jimmy John's Tekken Homestead? King Zeal 03:37, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Why does it matter what language Arcadia magazine is in? This is a Japanese video game after all, so they are a more than creditable source for it. Either way, source is source, facts are facts, doesn't depend on who it is, if SDTekken are the first and most reliable source, you might has well credit them where its due. Although I don't think linking everything in the article directly to their site would be needed, just once should cover their work I think. --RallyVincent 04:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Per WP:V English-language sources should be used in preference to foreign-language sources, assuming the availability of an English-language source of equal quality. Englishrose 09:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Translation is important for two reasons: 1) Unofficial translations could be different from the finished product. and 2) We can't verify a source that only a FEW people can read, and verification of sources is the most important criteria for inclusion into an article. And even SDTekken is linked as this article's source only once, the whole article could turn into a regurgitation of their site content if ALL of our news comes from them. King Zeal 10:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Here, Bob is now official - http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/characters.html --RallyVincent 23:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ali Makaveli

Who's Ali? Ryu-chan (Talk) 17:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

He's obviously a fake. I'll remove him. Michael Mad 17:28, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Style & Tone

Someone should clean up the unnecessary & silly tone of some of this stuff. The style at the beginning of the article is FAAAAAAR from encyclopedic, and some stuff is just straight wrong (e.g., observable sweat evaporation). Sounds like a 6th grade uncreative writing project. 68.191.217.93 09:31, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disk or download

Is the game, when it's released to the public, gonna be available as a disc or an Internet download like the Dark Resurrection expansion pack (which unfortunately excludes the Story and Theatre Modes, my favorite modes)? Angie Y. 01:09, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

id be willing to bet disc, for very basic reasons. ie, too large for dl. plus that would just be dumb. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.50.187.158 (talk) 01:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Ah, thank you. Angie Y. 14:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] IT'S ABSURD

ABSURD, ABSURD AND ABSURD. The screenshots of Tekken 6 official web ARE screens of Tekken 6, not Tekken 5 or Tekken 2, TEKKEN 6!!! For that reason they are put. In addition, they ARE OFFICIAL and therefore are official information of Tekken 6. In some captures even appear the names. If a named character appears in an OFFICIAL image of Tekken 6, then s/he appears in Tekken 6. Screenshots ARE NOT speculation, they are REAL and OFFICIAL images of Tekken 6 IN an OFFICIAL website. It is obvious, logical and evident. (Sorry, I'm Spanish, I know that my English is bad). --Pedro82 23:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree. This article is the unique one that does not consider as source the screenshots of official websites and the unique one that ignore news of international magazines. All the articles of unreleased videogames (Final Fantasy XIII, Super Mario Galaxy, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, Dissidia: Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid 4...) base their information on international magazines, official trailers and official websites (including screenshots evidently). And many of these games don't have official website, but they have official information of videogame events, magazines, trailers... It's stupid to make another thing. --Sinh 01:41, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
If the screenshots have NAMES on them then you have to put the source. Drjsveca 01:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
First. Sinh is my cousin and we live in the same home. I'm not the same person. Don't change our nicks please, it's vandalism ¬¬U
Second. International magazines are a verifiable source in ALL the videogames articles. Can I put this source with NAMED characters?
http://www.jeux-france.com/afficher_images.html?Image_big=Webmasters/Images/41201420070727_151914_1_big.jpg
http://www.jeux-france.com/afficher_images.html?Image_big=Webmasters/Images/41201420070727_151916_2_big.jpg --Pedro82 12:27, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Read the rules. 71.127.212.103 02:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
I have read the rules... and? Have you read my previous message? Magazines are verifiable sources. OFFICIAL screenshots with NAMED characters in OFFICIAL website are a verifiable source. ALL articles of unreleased videogames in Wikipedia (FF, MGS, Mario...) base their information on magazines, trailers and screenshots. And many of these games don't have official website!!! Why don't you edit the MGS4 article? Why don't you edit the Super Mario Galaxy article? Why don't you edit the Dissidia: Final Fantasy article? Only Tekken 6? In all these articles, magazines, screenshots and trailers are considered verifiable sources.--Sinh 02:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
If you have a source, then you have to put the source. You did not put the right sources until now. Maybe I don't edit those other articles you are talking about because I don't care about them. I only edit the Tekken 6 article because I choose to. It is my choice of which article I edit and not edit.71.127.212.103 05:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
These screenshots are coming directly from Tekken-Official, therefore there are enough evidences for the confirmation of all other characters. With having their links as references, no problem should occur; as King Zeal have said before, "confirmed" means that you can provide physical evidence that these characters are in the game, such as official statements, screenshots, quotes and so on. He also have said that linking screenshots directly from Tekken-Official shouldn't be a problem.
By the way, you're a frequent editor on here, English Wikipedia. Why don't you get an account? It would be nice to see another editor here. Master Spider 16:23, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Screenshots are not a problem if there is an English name on the screenshot. 71.125.85.144 23:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
If images with English names are allowed, then why magazine scans with English names aren't allowed? Plus, I don't think their names are needed to be visible. Since all of the characters have visual characteristics, they are absolutely recognizeable. I don't think they will have a name change or something like that before appearing in Tekken 6. After all, all of the characters that have been constantly added to the list are the ones that has appeared in the screenshots, and they have the images they have appeared as references, which are also directly linked from Tekken-Official (even characters that have made appearances in the "Characters" section have their profile pages as references). Nobody is trying to add Jun Kazama, Michelle Chang, Kunimitsu (all of them have rumored to return in Tekken 6 but haven't seen in screenshots) or other minor characters (again, just rumors), or even Mokujin (who has appeared in Tekken 5 but hasn't seen in screenshots). And one last thing, Harada stated that there will be 40 characters in Tekken 6 (which is also seen at beta tests and AM Tokyo Show). Where that all 40 characters will come from?
Also, this discussion was also done in the past, and then what happened? Many other characters' profiles has been released, and they have been kept added before. Wait and see, their profiles will be also released soon, and you'll understand that adding them wasn't a problem. Master Spider 10:34, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
That is not the point. What part of confirmed don't you understand? Read what King Zeal wrote before. Be pacient. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Read the rules of Wikipedia. You can put them in when they are released. 71.125.85.144 05:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
The characters are absoluty recognizeable. Sorry, but screenshots are physical evidences and confirm that these caharacters are in the game. Read the rules of Wikipedia ^^ --Sinh 05:01, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
It's not the screenshots that are in question, but the pages which HOST the screenshots. King Zeal 12:37, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
They are from Tekken-Official, therefore they should be legitimate. Thanks for mentioning it again. Master Spider 17:33, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
They should also have a name in English. Steven Greiner 02:07, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Characters are absolutely recognizeable 72.68.8.119/71.125.85.144 /Steven Greiner/Drjsveca, names are not neccesary.--Sinh 22:23, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes they are because this game has not yet been released. Steven Greiner 23:41, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
This game has not yet released... and? I repeat it, they are recognizeable in the screenshots. Can you not recognize them? They are physical evidences. Read the rules of Wikipedia please.--Sinh 01:04, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Do you even know what confirmed means? You should not assume names will be the same. You are the one who should read the rules because by looking at your history, you have already broken rules in the past. Steven Greiner 01:24, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
And you now 72.68.8.119/71.125.85.144 /Steven Greiner/Drjsveca. Names (other languages are permited):
http://www.jeux-france.com/afficher_images.html?Image_big=Webmasters/Images/41201420070727_151914_1_big.jpg
http://www.jeux-france.com/afficher_images.html?Image_big=Webmasters/Images/41201420070727_151916_2_big.jpg--Sinh 01:37, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Why don't you read the rules instead of telling other people to read the rules? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:RSUE#Sources_in_languages_other_than_English It says that "Because this is the English Wikipedia, for the convenience of our readers, English-language sources should be used in preference to foreign-language sources, assuming the availability of an English-language source of equal quality, so that readers can easily verify that the source material has been used correctly." The official site is available and will release profiles with names in English. Steven Greiner 04:24, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

You know what, they already have their English names on the AM Tokyo Show, and we know that the characters that have appeared on AM Tokyo Show are also the ones that appear on the screenshots. Also, the Japan Arcade Beta Test had a movelist for all characters, they all have their Japanese names there, and if you compare their Japanese names with the ones that appears in every character article (every character article contains the Japanese names of them as well), you would see that they match. Also, they are essentially recognizeable, so English names are not big deal. Other than that, "confirmed" means you can provide physical evidence for its existence, such as screenshots and press releases, and we have screenshots that comes directly from the official site. It is you who is confused with the meaning of the word "confirmed", not we. Plus, only you're agreeing with your own edits, you're even going far and causing a disruption to prove a point or to illustrate. Not to mention that you're claiming ownership also. And even, what we're doing is not false nor against the policy. Master Spider 17:38, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

But you put the wrong source. How am I causing a disruption to prove a point or claim ownership? What you are doing is against policy because you are trying to add dispute edits Steven Greiner 20:07, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
How come the japanese official site is a wrong source?
And you're simply claiming ownership... You're saying that you don't care about other video game articles, and only you would choose which article you would edit. That's true, but you're also claiming this article on your own, by simply only caring about this article and showing your edits as legitimate and ignoring ours. You certainly have to treat all other articles equally. And how can you say that you're not causing a disruption? You've caused a disruption which still goes.
And, I'm not adding dispute edits or trying to do so. Master Spider 17:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
You said that they have their English names on the AM Tokyo Show and that the Japan Arcade Beta Test had a movelist for all character, but Sinh did not put that. I am not claiming ownership by editing an article. I never claimed that I didn't care about other video game articles. I can choose to edit whatever articles I want. If editing an article is claiming ownership, then you are doing the same thing. Sinh is causing a disruption by putting dispute edits. If there is a dispute edit, then it is not supposed to be put in yet.Steven Greiner 04:12, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Maybe I don't edit those other articles you are talking about because I don't care about them. I only edit the Tekken 6 article because I choose to.

Didn't you say that (or, weren't you 71.127.212.103?)? If you weren't the one who did say that, sorry, my bad. About the movelists (you can find them anywhere), yeah, they have names, but they are not in a bad quality and might not be see/read by the people who has sight problems in a degree. The videos showcasing Japan Beta Test, AM Tokyo Show and current Japan Final Arcade version also has English names (you can find them at YouTube), but a screenshot from them would have less quality. Instead, why not putting high-resolution pictures hosted by the Japanese official site? Master Spider 17:37, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Updates. Admins, pls add this.

  • Tekken 6 introduces a new "bounce" system, after moves that knock the opponent down in juggles and they can not tech roll, a new “bounce” comes into play, extending a juggle possibilities.
  • Health bar was increased, due to new features, such as "rage", "bound" and item moves depleting a lot of character's health.
  • Every move animation for every character has been changed.

This information was confimed by Namco themselves in variuos interviews, it is feautured in Arcadia Magazine and all these feautures are present in the last beta.

[12] [13]

Admins, please update the new feautures page with this stuff.

Echad 11:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh, now that the page is free to edit again, I will add it myself... Done. Echad (talk) 11:48, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Devil kazuya

do anyone know if devil kazuya is going to take place on tekken 6 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allen jackson (talk • contribs) 15:30, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Yoshimistu —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allen jackson (talk • contribs) 20:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yoshimitsu

what is yoshimitsu? is he human or what?

Yes, he is as human as Bryan. Shrine Maiden (talk) 20:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Technically, he's a cyborg because of his wrist/hand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryu Ematsu (talk • contribs) 20:54, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

He's not a human nor robot stupid, look at his tekken 5 pic, And think back when he was in soulcalibur. Now me tell could a cyborg live that long. ahh quit being so dense....From lurk tucker —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.235.213.97 (talk) 20:59, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

"Dense"? The Soul Calibur Yoshimitsu and the Tekken Yoshimitsu are two different characters, for your information. Yoshimitsu isn't centuries old. 88.161.129.43 (talk) 18:30, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah...what does it even matter if he was human or not :o Jaewonnie (talk) 02:12, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked?

How come the "edit" option on this page is gone? Has it been blocked from being edited or something? And if so, why? Jienum (talk) 15:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

The article is protected until 11:28, November 24, 2007 (UTC) Steven Greiner (talk) 07:21, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh, right. Thanks. By the way, I thought someone ought to mention on the article that Bob is American (his nationality is the same as Paul Phoenix, according to his Tekken Official page). Jienum (talk) 13:48, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New character?

Jack-6 a new character? Come off it morons. This is the same stupid imbeciles that say that the character: Law hasn't been playable on every Tekken. Jack-6 even looks identical to Jack-5 (then again, every character bar Hwoarang are identical to there previous versions in this mission pack. Get this 'new' character taken off the new characters list, you're just embarrassing yourselves.86.162.213.60 (talk) 17:40, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you about Jack-6, but that gives you no right to insult other Wikipedians. Calm down. You're not going to get your point across any better by being spiteful. That said, I also disagree when it comes to Law, King, Kuma, and any other character that canon states is separate due to the 20 year gap between Tekken 2 and Tekken 3. In a technical respect, the moveset and character title (Law, Kuma, etc.) is still the same, but the character is not. Marshall Law does not appear in every Tekken game. "Law" does, but that's a title...not a character. King Zeal (talk) 01:46, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
I agree with the first guy. People are getting too bogged down with the story. Law is Law. If a casual games player asked you, while playing Tekken 3, if Law was on the game as they liked playing as him, would you say "No"? It pisses me off that when listing characters that have been playable in every Tekken game, King, Kuma and Law are not mentioned just because of some stupid time advancement storyline that is nothing but pointless extra information. Regardless, I second that Jack-6 needs removing from the new characters section. 86.129.39.171 (talk) 03:20, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Why does something so inconsequential "piss you off"? I mean, I don't see how it's hard to say "Marshall Law wasn't, but his son was. They play the same." You can't always make a point by promoting shallow "yes" or "no" answers. For example:
"Is Dudley in Capcom vs. SNK 2?"
"Yes."
This is technically correct. Dudley IS in CVS2. However, he is not a playable character. King Zeal (talk) 15:11, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Jack-6 may look and play like Jack-5, but is indeed a different character. We shouldn't change anything just because it makes you, one person, angry. We have to do justice to the article, and not to you. The story is one of the things that does Tekken justice. Would you really want to play a fighting game that had not story and no unlockable content because of that? No. That may've worked with games like Street Fighter II, but not in this day and age where one of the more important things is replay value. And dispite the fact that Jack-6 and 5 look similar, they are different. If the story was "G Cooperation upgraded Jack-5 into Jack-6" or something to that effect, then he would be a returning character. But that's not the case. And there have been many cases where people have took on the the same name as a previous character. Such examples are.
Marshal Law - Forest Law
King I - King II
Kuma I - Kuma II
In other instances, characters changed their name. An example of this would be Lee Chaolan - Violet. I guess this argument is over because I know you have nothing to back up what you want. --Ryu-chan (Talk | Contributions) 19:10, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  • What a silly argument. I'll ignore the comments slagging off SFII (still one of the best fighters around). But can you please explain how a 'story' adds replay value?

and "Would I really want to play a fighting game that had not story and no unlockable content because of that?" - yes, i wouldn't give a rats you-know-what. See, I prefer VF5 to Tekken 5 because it's a better game, not because it has more story and unlockable filler characters. 86.149.37.21 (talk) 15:14, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

This argument isn't over just because you say it is at the end of your pointless rant (which barely made any sense I might add). The first comment was right. The new characters are ONLY the ones Namco announce in press releases and so-on. The ones games magazines report on. Leo, Miguel, Zafina and Bob. (You back up your 'argument' well by talking about 'replay value' by the way...(merely because you've heard about it somewhere) even though it has NOTHING to do with what you're trying to argue.... This is what a games magazines would be like if brain dead gamers wrote them rather than journalists...Wikipedia is a complete joke and the Tekken articles go some way to proving that all on their own. Mr.bonus (talk) 20:28, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

What are you talking about? My argument made perfect sense, but did go a little off the main point. Jack-6 is a different character fro Jack, P. Jack, Jack 2, Gun Jack, Jack 4, and Jack 5. That makes Jack 6 a new character. New, meaning, has not been in a previous game. Enough said. --Ryu-chan (Talk | Contributions) 18:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
If even Namco doesn't call him a new character (and they don't, nor did they in previous games), I don't see any reason to do so here. He just keeps changing names. Heh. 88.161.129.43 (talk) 16:05, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Exactly right. Namco would never call Jack-6 a new character and even magazines would only state Leo, Zafina, Bob and Miguel as the newcomers. 86.160.58.111 (talk) 18:43, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

The Jack robots don't change names, they keep getting rebuilt. That's completely different. If he got an upgrade or something along those line, then you guys would be right. But this case, you're not. You guys aren't bringing up a good argument. --Ryu-chan (Talk | Contributions) 20:03, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Guess I should have used quote marks... I know they don't simply "change names". But essentially, it all amounts to the same thing. The character/moveset "Jack" keeps changing names. Just like the character/moveset "Law" got a different first name at some point. Namco didn't introduce Law's son as one of the "new characters" of Tekken 3. Same thing for the second King or the second Kuma. Plot-wise, they're different, but I'd say that's irrelevant, here. Again, if _even Namco_ doesn't bother pretending these guys are "OMG new characters!!"... 88.161.129.43 (talk) 01:43, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
These 2 unregistered users are right. No one (including Namco) has called Jack-2 or Jack-6 a 'new character'. Ryu_Chan is just being awkward. Mr.bonus (talk) 16:08, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
For the new characters, someone on Wiki had to create a brand new page. For Jack-6, someone wrote what amounts to a footnote on his existing page. What does that tell you? 86.129.28.90 (talk) 14:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Why no one says anything about Jack 5 being a new character in Tekken 5 article? Tekken_5#New_Characters ^_^; Shrine Maiden (talk) 19:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I can see loads of people agree with the point that Jack-6 is not one of the new characters. He simply ISN'T. But the list won't get changed. Why? Because clearly you can't argue with utter stupidity. The story doesn't determine who the new characters are, the game does. The idiots who are have written this list incorrectly are just embarrassing Wikipedia for everyone with an ounce of sense that looks at this article...

We'll never make them change anything no matter how many times we tell the 'owners' of this article that they're wrong, and ridiculously so. 86.145.218.176 (talk) 11:49, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Jack-6 still listed as a new character. Does he look completely different? Has a got a new moveslist? He doesn't even have a new Wiki article. Ask Namco if they consider Jack a new character... Utterly embarrassing. Mr.bonus (talk) 14:09, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Quoted from article - "As of November 2007, five new characters have been confirmed" - Leo, Zafina, Miguel, Bob and Azazel (not Jack-6). Leave the article as is now, with Jack on the returning characters list. Mr.bonus (talk) 21:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NANCY-MI847J

I see theres a new unarchived character... Some Korean guy found Nancy, And you can read about it at http://community.livejournal.com/_deviljin_/64954.html?style=mine . Theres a photo intact, If anyone gets curious

Does anyone have any more info on this guy? Crazy stuff, No? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ax Kamen (talk • contribs) 17:59, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

The name: I can't see clearly if it's an "S" or an "8"... =) Shrine Maiden (talk) 09:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

It's an "8"... I saw it clearly while he was beating the crap outta my AK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.163.219.177 (talk) 12:49, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

http://sdtekken.com/2008/01/30/nancy-mis47j-in-action/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.163.213.217 (talk) 12:37, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

How come if you see the new characters section here on Wikipedia, nancy's name has an S not an 8? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.241.27 (talk) 05:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fan Made PS3 Cover

Wanted to point out that's a fan made image somebody put up on the main page for the ps3 cover. :P

http://www.vgboxart.com/view/9445/tekken.6/?replies=17 N8nmonster 02:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, whoever made it did a splendid job. I thought it was real. 88.16.215.71 (talk) 13:52, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Zafina?

What happened to the Zafina article? 123.19.58.72 (talk) 07:22, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Some bored idiot deleted it. That's what. Jienum (talk) 12:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] the game's backstory

http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/story.html

Can anyone translate the game's story here (it's in Japanese)? According to Tekkenpedia, Jin Kazama takes control of The Mishima Zaibastu, starts a world war, and Jin establish himself as a dictator (of course the devil gene took control of him now). I was wondering if I could add that in or not.--Dark paladin x (talk) 02:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, the idea was to wait until Namco officially translates it. King Zeal (talk) 05:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, by now, everyone knows it's the true story. We've all seen the arcade opening on YouTube, with Jin saluting the Zaibatsu men and Miguel crying for his dead sister by a bombed church. Wikipedia is not based on other websites, but it is not based on fancruft either. This storyline is anything but fancruft, so that is why I have added the storyline (the characters' storylines match as well). Jienum (talk) 16:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Remaking of Zafina Article

Is it possible to remake the Zafina page? Its getting quite annoying being redirected back to the Tekken 6 Page. I don't have much of the story on Zafina so could someone else who is willing to do the page DO THE PAGE? Sorry to sound so rude its just very annoying when someone screws up an article. SlaveofBetrayal ( Talk)

In my opinion, a better solution would be to create a "Characters in Tekken" page and include all of the characters with very little out-of-universe or notable information, such as Angel/Devil, Alex/Roger, Christie, and all of the T6 characters. Much like what was done with the Virtua Fighter characters. King Zeal (talk) 08:02, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree. The Tekken character pages are an absolute joke - detailing what happens in every ending and intro for each character is insane and is not encyclopaedic. They need condensing into the VF character page structure. Besides, it's not fair that the better game (VF) gets less Wiki space just because Tekken fans tug off over the ridiculous back-stories. All they need is a brief backstory explanation (it's virtually the same in every game they appear in), a bit about their play/fighting style and what games they have appeared in with a little extra info (for example, a small paragraph explaining that M. Law was not in Tekken 3 because of Forrest). Get it sorted. :D 86.151.51.28 (talk) 14:15, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
I always thought the ending sections were actually fine additions, so long as they were kept brief. Then again, they were my idea to include in the first place, so I could just be stroking my own ego. Still, I'll start changing the pages if we reach a consensus, and I'll start with the "lesser" characters (see my above post) before working my way to the more significant ones. King Zeal (talk) 14:26, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
To tell the truth, I don't really agree with wikipedia pages about fictional characters except for special cases (like Sherlock Holmes, James Bond and Harry Potter). I also think the best solutions are "List of Characters in (whatever)" pages, like for the Kingdom Hearts characters. We should put some effort and make this "List of Tekken characters" page, if we reach that decision. Jienum (talk) 11:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Personally I find the character pages very confusing disorganized. Also you can't possibly think that having a huge page with names of characters and a few things about them is what readers want. In my opinion (remember its just my opinion) I think things should be kept the way they are. To me it makes it less vague.-- SlaveofBetrayal ( Talk) —Preceding comment was added at 01:01, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

A page just listing characters would be far better (with a little explanation of story and play style). I don't think endings are needed, there are not important - all they do is add a little story - the important things that happen in endings would be included in the character's brief story paragraph. As it is now, there are far too many articles with far too much bumf in them. We don't need a backstory AND ending description for EVERY game there are in. We need to get it cut down like what happened for the VF characters. 217.42.229.221 (talk) 14:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
The reason I support adding the endings is because not all endings are canon. I've tried to strike a balance within the Jin Kazama article by omitting the endings from his story synopsis and instead listing them below. Jin, however, is a unique case, as he is the only character in which every ending (aside from TTT) has proven canonical. In other words, he's the only character that would work for. King Zeal (talk) 15:06, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I see what you are saying but I really do think the endings add lots of emphasis on what the characters story and past is. Also its easy to follow for some people that are a bit... you know slow. I support endings just like King Zeal but I also have to disagree on some things. As long as there are people who are willing to put time in making those articles I see no problem with keeping the things fine just the way they are.-- SlaveofBetrayal (Talk)

Tekken is a fighting game, the character's articles don't need lots of "emphasis on what the characters story and past is". All that's needed is one paragraph of story, one paragraph of play/fight style and maybe one more detailing other important info (games appeared in, appearance changes, King I and II etc). No need for all this canon/non-canon rubbish - it's extra info that shouldn't be in an encyclopedia but on a fan site. 81.158.218.71 (talk) 14:30, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
What does the genre of the game have to do with it? If there is sourceable, relevant information to a character (such as Ling Xiaoyu's friendship with Jin--which can ONLY be sourced through her endings), then what's the point in declaring something as "rubbish"? Tekken is only marginally like Virtua Fighter, but vastly in the sense that Virtua Fighter has NO individual character plot or endings whatsoever. I only agree with removing the Endings sections if they are truly inconsequential (such as Roger Jr.'s). But, the endings should at least be referenced for characters such as Jin and Xiaoyu. King Zeal (talk) 14:59, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

"What does the genre of the game have to do with it? If there is sourceable, relevant information to a character (such as Ling Xiaoyu's friendship with Jin--which can ONLY be sourced through her endings), then what's the point in declaring something as "rubbish"?" This has been quoted because there is a valid point made in here. May I not that Hworaung's ending in Tekken 5 helps blossom his next objective for Tekken 6. Now in my opinion most of these endings help tell the bases of a new rivalry to come in the game. Few endings can be deleted like Roger Jr's, Mokujin's, Paul's Tekken 5, and Beak doo San's Tekken 5. SlaveofBetrayal (Talk) 15:38, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Respectfully, I think you missed what I was getting at. We shouldn't base the inclusion of the endings on how it could affect the character in the future, but on whether or not what's detailed in the ending is relevant to the understanding of the character. For example, Jin's endings and his main plot are virtually inseparable. As I said, to avoid redundancy, I omitted the details of Jin's endings in his article and merely listed his endings below. I also used Xiaoyu as an example because there are things in her ending that tell more about her character than even her main story (such as the fact that she went to school with Jin). Also, User 81.158.218.71 stated that details about the character's fighting style should be included. To me, this makes even less sense than inclusion of the endings because we can source and summarize the endings. Going by main plot and gameplay alone, what do we really know about Bryan Fury's fighting style other than that he uses kickboxing? At least in the endings, we learn that he can not only shrug off gunfire, but that he can tear tanks apart with his bare hands. King Zeal (talk) 17:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
I do agree that some endings tell more about the character than the main story. We can also take King for example without the ending for Tekken 5 you wouldn't be able to understand why Marduk and King are friends now in Tekken 6. Also without Marduk's ending Steve might not be after Marduk. If you look at the endings as a piece of information and just apply it to next main story then the endings are quite resourceful and VERY helpful (in regards to very slow people like me...) anyways back on subject, if the endings were to suddenly dissappear I would be quite disappointed but then again its not my article but I AM a member and members want to be happy too. Please hear me out. I REALLY think things should just stay the way they are if it was really and problem the bots would have dealt with it already.(Remeber this is just my opinion)--SlaveofBetrayal (Talk) 20:01, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Well obviously this is fair enough. If the ending reveals some plot details then add a brief sentence in the character's plot paragraph, but don't have a full paragraph for EACH ending. If you just have a plot paragraph and a character description paragraph all you have to do is work out the important details to go in each section. 86.151.51.241 (talk) 15:19, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kunimitsu Obsession

Oy, what's the the obsession with adding Kunimitsu into the list of anticipated characters? My understanding is that there is no indication whatsoever that she'll be included in the roster other a bunch of fanboys (and I mean that in the kindest way possible) who want her in. -Fuzzy (talk) 12:52, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

You understand correctly. There has been no official mention of her, only one missing space on the Tekken 6 character select screen that may be reserved for her.Tathunen (talk) 23:16, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

What are you talking about? I havent heard (or seen) anything of a swarm of Kunimitsu worshippers. I liked Kunimitsu as a fighter (and do hope that shes brought back), But thats all Ive seen. The missing space... Would be better suited for Devil Kazuya, I think. With all this devil business. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ax Kamen (talk • contribs) 22:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Card system used?

Anyone know anything about the Tekken 6 cards that are useable with this game?Zelphi (talk) 11:30, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tekken: The Movie

I havent seen anything on the 'pedia yet about it, So Ill go ahead and start a string. IMDb already has a page for it, With lots of info

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411951/

Couldnt think of a better place to put it Any other input?

--Ax Kamen (talk) 17:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

If there's enough information to really pin it down, I'd say give it its own article. As of now, it's described briefly in the OVA article. Until there's more information than half a casting list and a generic plot, I'd put it in Tekken (series) where they apparently have a non-existant link to Tekken (2009). -Fuzzy (talk) 18:47, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bound system or Bounce System?

This has been changed back and forth in edits. I did a quick Google search for "Tekken 6" "Bounce System" and got 354 results and "Tekken 6" "Bound System" and got 515 results. The Wikipedia article shows up for both searches. :) Which is it? Anyone actually experienced the game enough to know? -Fuzzy (talk) 20:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)