User talk:Tejastheory

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[edit] Motorcycle safety

The intention of the section is to demonstrate with accurate and well-documented real-life examples that motorcycles are lethal when operated exactly the way intended by the manufactures. The list of deaths of experienced riders, including the president of a motorcycle club and numerous police offiecers, sheds an accurate light on the limitation of "motorcycle safety" which is an oxymoron when 80% of motorcycle accidents result in death or serious injury.

Look at the Wiki definition of vanity and you will see that such definition does not apply since I do not have any association with the deceased individuals. I believe the real motive for removing the section is to downplay the extent of serious well-documented danger of this consumer product. There is a pattern of downplaying the deadliness of motorcycles by the motorcycle fans who generally contribute to these wiki pages, which has been demonstrated by the redaction of mortality statistics from both the Harley-Davidson and the Motorcycle articles. Such censorship has no wiki basis and such activity gives the strong appearance of nothing more than product-support based censorship. As one writer in the Harley-Davidson discussion page noted, that article is little more than a Harley-Davidson company portal. If you would like to continue this discussion, let's copy our comments over to the Motorcycle safety page and continue it there. Then when I put a neutrality disputed tag on the page, it will make sense to all concerned.

David F. Traver 00:04, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

As an initial matter, what makes those deceased individuals "special" is that their motorcycle-related deaths are well-documented on the web, as was their experience as motorcycle operators. So it was possible to provide supporting links.

Perhaps there is a middle ground which will be satisfying to you and to other readers of the motorcycle-related pages. I suggest we collaborate to create a new article titled something like "Motorcycle social costs and mortality rates." We could move information from the "safety" page to the new page. The notion of discussing "motorcycle safety" is an oxymoron to me, since there is nothing a rider can do to make the machine safe for operation on a highway. It is somewhat like having safe Russian roulette. Social costs and mortality rates could explore the death rate, lost earnings, costs to Medicaid, welfare, Supplemental Security Income, and Social Security Disability due to uninsured and unemployable motorcycle accident victims, etc. We could document and show the social costs in miles traveled to differentiate motorcycles from modes of transportation that have substantially fewer social costs, such as airplanes, automobiles, trains, and buses. It would be a pleasure to have someone to work with on the project. David F. Traver 00:42, 20 March 2006 (UTC)


The newer Type H cards claim to offer speed increases over Type M cards, as well as include special "picture effects", although most of these are only available in use with Olympus digital cameras.

[edit] Image:Sather tower.jpg

Hi. When you uploaded Image:Sather tower.jpg, you did not specify complete source and copyright information. Another user subsequently tagged it with {{GFDL-presumed}} and, for some time, it has existed on Wikipedia under the assumption that you created the image and you agreed to license it under the GFDL. This assumption, however well-meaning, is not legally sufficient and the tag is being phased out. Images using it are being deleted.

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Please feel free to contact me on my talk page or leave a message at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions with any questions you may have. Thank you. Aksibot 09:19, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Somebody told me.png

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[edit] AfD nomination of Cyber Monday

An article that you have been involved in editing, Cyber Monday, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cyber Monday (2nd nomination). Thank you. Sawblade05 (talk to me | my wiki life) 09:16, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Violation of WP:3RR for breaking WP:V policy

You have reverted Template:Canon DSLR cameras four times: 1 2 3 4. All four times are in clear violation of policy WP:V. Do it again and I will block you under WP:3RR since you are knowingly, and uncaringly violating policy.

Per WP:V:

The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged should be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation.

You are clearly restoring questionable material and you refuse to cite it in the template per policy. Cburnett (talk) 00:45, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Truce

Look, this is getting ridiculously stupid. For acting like an ass: I apologize. For following policy and warning you for your edit warring in violation of policy: I don't apologize.

Per policy, WP:V, you must put in citations as the restoring editor. Putting links to sources on a talk page does not count: no one looking at Canon EOS-1D will be able to see the citations on that page. They must go to the template and realize they are on the talk page, and so look there. That is not how citations work. Step back and realize that putting links somewhere on a talk page doesn't help anyone actually wanting to find it. The labels have a history of being contentious and if they aren't in plain view for people to check that, yes, 5D is a "professional" line camera then they will continue to change it. Cburnett (talk) 01:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[1]. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Cburnett (talk) 01:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm not going to say anything more than use your common sense next time. Look at these templates:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Pentax_DSLR_cameras&oldid=193810976
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Olympus_DSLR_cameras&oldid=193811958
Can you honestly say your edits were making a positive contribution to wikipedia? Especially after it was made clear that the information about target markets is readily available, and it would just take some time to find and list citations for each and every product line. At the very least, you use this: Template:Fact, which shows to all readers that the information is unverified and possibly contentious (your point), but at least allows that information to be verified, without ruining the templates in the meantime.
I'm not interested in carrying on this discussion further, but that's just a point I'll hope you'll consider next time. -Tejastheory (talk) 01:11, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
If I should have added {{fact}} then why didn't you the four times you restored the labels? Policy says to remove ({{fact}} is a courtesy, if you will). You should appreciate following the letter of policy after you [wholly, unnecessarily, and unconstructively] railed me on accuracy and precision.
I didn't use {{fact}} because I don't like the cavalier "tag it and forget it" approach people take. I LOOKED at the product pages for numerous cameras and didn't find one use of any particular label. Zero, none, zilch, nada. I TRIED to find an authoritative source on the labels and didn't find anything. I couldn't in good conscience add {{fact}} after attempting to find a source myself: that's not the point of the tags. I tried and failed so I removed the labels.
So, yes, I would consider them positive contributions for removing material that was unsourced and, as far as my attempts were, unsourceable. Cburnett (talk) 01:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)