User talk:Technopat

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[edit] Welcome

Hello, Technopat, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} and your question on your user talk page, and someone will show up shortly to answer. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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If you have any questions or would like a comment, feel free to let me know. Have fun! -- moe.RON ^{Let's talk | done} 20:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translations

(The following posting was originally duplicated on my user page, but as of today only appears here --Technopat 22:33, 17 February 2007 (UTC))

Please. Dear experienced Wikipedians. While I reckon I have made a reasonable effort to check out available FAQs, etc., I have not as yet come across any reference to the copyright situation on translations to be included on article pages (I'm pretty sure that there must be something out there). The reason I'm interested is that I came across an article page for a Spanish music group whose lyrics are pretty central to their appeal and on the corresponding discussion page someone had asked for a translation.

As I wasn't too sure about the legal situation, I started a simple synopsis of the lyrics (on the discussion page corresponding to the album in question) and suggested that it might be in the spirit of Wikipedia to make a concerted effort among us all to try to get an ongoing translation, with people adding nuances to the basic translation as on any other article page.

So my question is the following: Is there any infringement of copyright if a free translation is made of the lyrics of a song? Surely the strict measures made to protect copyright only refer to the original version. Thank you for taking the time to answer this doubt. (And thank you for being on Wikipedia - it's a great project!) Technopat 00:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Dear Technopat: You're right, it is a bit difficult to find the information! Basically, a translated text is a derivative work, and as such subject to the original's copyright as well as the translator's. Therefore there would be an infringment of the copyright. Translations in general are subject to copyright. The min exception is that a translation made by an author who died more than 70 years will generally be in the public domain, but more recent works remain copyrighted.

You can cite and link to such translations on the web but quotations from the translations are subject to 'fair use' rules. You may use very brief examples, a word or phrase here or there (Such as "The Beatles song, "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" begins with the words "Picture yourself in a boat on a river...") All quotations must be short and essential to the context.

Please note that the WikiProject for albums does intermittently check for lyrics & the such & will remove them as copyright violations, so it's best not to put the lyrics and/or translations therein as well.

I hope this helps, if you need further info, just leave a note on my user talk page. SkierRMH 00:52, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

(moved from user page) You've probably read Wikipedia:Copyrights. I believe many countries do not allow for translations of works without permission. I'm sure doing it for a couple of lines is fine, but also note that Wikipedia should not include original research, which may include self-translated works that are not published elsewhere.

Please also note that discussions should take place only on talk pages, as is the {{helpme}} tag. Thanks. Xiner (talk, email) 00:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. This place can be confusing -- I mean, talk pages are technically discussion pages, but who says that? Xiner (talk, email) 23:46, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: translation of lyrics

Thank you all very much for your response. Wikipedia - and its Wikipedians - are great! Technopat 11:13, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Stevie Wonder

In regards to User talk:Moeron#weird stuff going down; What happened was that 66.222.19.10 (talk • contribs • info • WHOIS) edited the page in a vandal-like manner with this edit, replacing the page with nonsense. FrancoGG (talk · contribs) then used a program (see WP:POPUPS or WP:SCRIPTS) to rollback that IPs edit to the last version that was correct; in this case, that correction was yours. In short, everything is all good on the Stevie Wonder page again and there is no worries. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. Cheers! -- moe.RON ^{Let's talk | done} 23:35, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Forests of the Iberian Peninsula

We seem to have had an ugly edit conflict at Forests of the Iberian Peninsula/Translation. I've done my best to restore any of your edits that I may have accidentally overwritten. My apologies if I missed something, you may want to check. Weird that we should be both working at once on something that has been so neglected. - Jmabel | Talk 01:07, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism & what to do

Thanks for the note on my talk page. I have sometimes been less tolerant of vandals than policy strictly dictates, but I've noticed that (of course) admins differ as to when a block is warranted. When I check a user's edits, and the last ten or twenty are vandalism, I generally report it, but I'm being more conscious of the chronology of those edits now, and sometimes just post yet another "final warning". Anyway, check out Wikipedia:Vandalism, WP:TUSER, as well as the links listed in the welcome message above for all sorts of good info. - Special-T 19:47, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding edits made to Respect - The Unity Coalition

Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia, Technopat! However, your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove spam from Wikipedia. If you were trying to insert a good link, please accept my creator's apologies, but note that the link you added, matching rule \bexample\.com, is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. Please read Wikipedia's external links policy for more information. If the link was to an image, please read Wikipedia's image tutorial on how to use a more appropriate method to insert the image into an article. If your link was intended to promote a site you own, are affiliated with, or will make money from inclusion in Wikipedia, please note that inserting spam into Wikipedia is against policy. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! Shadowbot 14:32, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I accept your apologies in advance and I suppose your hyper-sensitivity is due to previous negative experiences, but surely in these times of advanced technology, a bot can distinguish the edit of one single letter from spam or what-have-you. All I did was to change a header to lowercase in accordance with wikipedia header policy. I have now been branded, unjustly, for life as a spammer. --Technopat 14:45, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

You have not been branded as a spammer, this first message is a pure good-faith remark, not a warning. When I see your edit here you indeed did a good-faith edit to change the capitalisation of the header, but also, purely accidental I am sure, added a link to example dot com. The addition of the latter is reverted, along with all other edits. Sorry for the inconvenience. See you around, happy editing! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Please, stop worrying, there really is no harm done. You really accidentily added a link to example.com, just have a look at the [diff. This revert does no harm at all. You were clearly not vandalising, this 'warning' is almost forgotten already. Counting starts all over, you are at 0 again. These things happen. Even us established users do sometimes get warnings, or make mistakes. I don't even know what shadowbot got blacklisted, and I may get a warning as well in time. As long as one then follows what the warning says, there is no problem. If you make some good edits afterwards, the first two warnings say nothing (and shadowbot would only revert you once, except on the links that he is 'angry' about). So just go back to editing .. see you around, happy editing! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 18:25, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it is possible to put a virus into the mediawiki software, there would be only one place to put it (in your monobook), and only you can edit that. But please let us know when it happens again. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 19:27, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry, you're fine. There was a monobook virus going around a while ago, but your monobook is empty, and the virus wouldn't have caused you to enter spam links anyway. (The empty box means 'no script'; the warning on top is an attempt to warn people about the virus, because it worked using social engineering methods, and it appears on everyone's monobook.) The main thing to remember is not to add code to your monobook.js unless you trust the source. I hope that helps, and sorry you were worried. --ais523 09:22, 19 February 2007 (U T C)

[edit] Do what I can. :)

Hi, Technopat. I'm not actually an admin, so I can't block a user. However, I did revert the vandalism and attached a warning--it's a school account, so it's possible that the same person will be at the same computer tomorrow. If it gets too bad, the admins will forward a report to the school's officials. But thanks for the head-sup. :) Justin Eiler 00:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not at all, but sorry anyway.

Hallo, Technopat,

Yes, it seems we have, really:

But please check that my latest edition had nothing to do with yours. Mine just substituted the word fourteenth for fifteenth in the Later Life section of M. C. Escher, so restoring the previous writing, which had been vandalized a week earlier.
Now about your deletion of the trifle remark about some guy who apparently told something about Mr. Escher, I must say I absolutely agree with you. If somewhere, that trivia item should be placed in the page dedicated to the guy who told it (if he ever did, by the way).

Believe me, I am very sorry for the inconvenience. Kind regards, Zack Holly Venturi 16:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your note to me

As far as I'm concerned, you are free to use any of the templates on my user page. I found most of them in the same way you did -- by looking at the user pages of others. I will warn you that since I last made major modifications to it, the expectations for user pages have changed. Some people would disapprove of the way my page appears. I obviously don't care enough about those expectations to make changes, but I felt you should be forewarned. Next, I'm a bit unclear about why you keep making references to the apostrophe. Did I misuse that punctuation mark? Did you misuse it? Either way, it's okay -- we're allowed occasional mistakes. Finally, I must ask you what article or template you were making reference to. When I'm busy here, I edit around 1500 articles a month. I honestly must say I don't recall where I bumped into you. I am curious now, so please let me know where it was. Erechtheus 22:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing up the apostrophe mystery and telling me about the article at which we met. It looks like it is coming along quite nicely. In fact, I think the refimprove template probably isn't necessary at this point if you want to remove it. Happy editing to you. Erechtheus 00:30, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of Jimmy Woode

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For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Blair - Speak to me 11:21, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] B.B. King in London

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You may remember posting the following on the Jerry Ragovoy talk page - Greetings, Does anyone know if this is the same person credited as the piano-playing Dr Ragovoy on the B.B. King album B.B. King in London. Have also come across a ref. elsewhere, but can't remember where, here on Wikipedia that the song "Ain't Nobody Home" which also appears on that album, was written by someone called Ragovoy. Thanx for your help.

I though it better to reply to you directly. Firstly yes, "Ain't Nobody Home" was definitely penned by Jerry Ragovoy - as Ragovoy's article now states. It is likely he played piano on the In London album too - certainly All Music Guide quotes his piano playing contribution to the slightly later Best of B. B. King (MCA Records - 1973) album - see [1]. I hope this helps.

Derek R Bullamore 19:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Strawbs has been changed

By the way, if you want to change the name of an article, it's pretty easy to do. Simply click on the "move" button at the top of an article, then type in the new name in the box below and hit submit.

-Xnux the Echidna 01:14, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Riding with the King infobox repair

My pleasure! --Bruce1ee 14:38, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cassidyjones vandal

As far as I can tell, the vandal hasn't edited since I blocked it. The block was at 18:50 and the last edit was at 18:46. Am I missing something? JoshuaZ 22:14, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure which activity you are referring to as "normal", but if you mean that level of vandalism, then no its a bit more concerted an effort than we generally deal with. JoshuaZ 23:45, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of When Your Lover Has Gone

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I'm not sure why that happened. The article made claims of notability, although some sources would be nice. JFW | T@lk 22:39, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanx for feedback. I was actually just saving it before losing it all - and did actually mention it (more or less) in the edit summary - while I went off to look for other Wikipedia articles linked to the composer. Regards, Technopat (talk) 22:43, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Jimjam

A tag has been placed on Jimjam requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

Contested on article discussion page. Technopat (talk) 19:04, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Block request

(I'm cross-posting this from my talk page, in case you don't have it watchlisted) Hi Technopat, I'm not an admin, so I can't block anyone, but a block wouldn't be appropriate in this case anyway; they've only edited once in the last month, and twice in the last six months [2]. It's quite possibly a shared IP, so it may not even be the same person who was vandalizing in June (when I left my last warning, which is how I assume you found my name). I'll leave them a new warning, and if this vandalism continues, you can report them to WP:AIV if they vandalize after a recent final warning. But warnings do grow "stale", and we can't block after a warning given in June. Thanks for reverting the vandalism, and if you have any questions on vandalism reverting and warnings and blocking, feel free to ask. --barneca (talk) 23:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Greetings Barneca,

Thanx for your prompt reply - and your assumption is correct. Great verb/adjective that: watchlisted. Regards, Technopat (talk) 00:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)Technopat

[edit] Hank Mobley correction

Thank you for your correction of my quotation marks edit on the Hank Mobley page. I clearly needed to brush up on the subject so I re-read the guidelines and have since found some instances to correct myself. Much appreciated. (Wrightjack (talk) 19:36, 29 January 2008 (UTC))

[edit] North American Bear Attacks article

When I encounter a situation where the references are of an inconsitent style, I use this

The references in this article would be clearer with a different or consistent style of citation, footnoting, or external linking.

; when I encounter a situation where references occur but only as external links or a list at the end but the article lacks in-text citations, I use this

This article or section includes a list of references or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks in-text citations.
You can improve this article by introducing more precise citations.

In the above-references article, I agree that the references need some more work. I have it on my "to-do" list of on-going projects. Best regards.--Hokeman (talk) 05:43, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hoagy Carmichael

Hi. I'm glad you went back and separated the death details of Hoagy from the Georgie Fame insert. It made it look as though recording the album with Fame caused his death! :) Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 17:55, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Solid Gold Cadillac

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21:33, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Contested with hangon template --Technopat (talk) 00:23, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

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