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Contents 1 POV 2 World of Darkness 3 Merge with Technocratic_movement 4 It does not make a lot of sense to delete information directly related on wikipedia articles 5 AfD makes the most sense for the article Technocratic movement

[edit] POV

This article seems to have been written by its subject.

It's not a bad article, but the adverb "quickly" seems POV in all uses.

Taking decades to amass "thousands" of members is no great accomplishment.

24.21.189.221 15:06, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] World of Darkness

Uhhh.... World of Darkness... Mage... this is fake, right?

For reference, this user is refering to Technocracy (World of Darkness). And yes, this current article on Technocracy is totally real. 154.5.41.198 04:44, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge with Technocratic_movement

I fail to see a substantial difference between the two articles. Furthermore, the fuzzy line between them only confuses readers. You even have a picture of the Technocracy Incorporated sign as the first image. Let's clean everything up (again) and cite some bloody sources. 154.5.41.198 04:47, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Following the discussion on the technocracy movement page this article has been split again. Technocracy Inc is just one organisation in the movement.Isenhand (talk) 12:07, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

There is no real connection between Dr. Andrew Wallace's group the Network of European Technocrats and Technocracy Incorporated Further more there is no real Technocracy movement outside of the North America. Isenhand or Technocrate or Andrew Wallace is promoting the idea of a movement because he has written a book about it as such http://web.telia.com/~u11319012/index.htm Andrew Alexander Wallace This book promotes the idea that his group of which he is the director (Network of European Technocrats) is a part of the Technocracy movement. Technocracy Incorporated states over and over that it is not associated with any other groups in the U.S. or in Europe. This then is a blatant conflict of interest for an editor here who is directing web traffic to self published articles en.technocracynet.eu/index.php Network of European Technocrats - News. www.lulu.com/content/750510 Technocracy: Building a new sustainable society for a post carbon world by Andrew Wallace (Book) in Engineering ---- This is another sales site set up by Dr. Andrew Wallace, Isenhand or Technocrate here to promote his book.skip sievert (talk) 03:41, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I've now formally added tags to propose merging Technocracy movement into this article. As discussed on the Talk:Technocracy movement, given the controversies we've seen, it makes sense to talk about specific groups rather than a general, "fuzzy", "movement". Concentrate first on bringing the pre-WWII stuff up to scratch, first the history and then the basic concepts as developed by Scott et al before the war. Then you can have two sections, one on how the ideas of TI developed post-WWII, and another about "legacy" or "influence" that can describe specific groups that share similar ideas. If those groups deserve more than a few lines, then it's probably best to start a new article for them. But of course, you need to remember WP:V and WP:RS - all information must be verifiable from reliable, third-party sources, otherwise it will be removed! FlagSteward (talk) 12:02, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] It does not make a lot of sense to delete information directly related on wikipedia articles

Removing links to expanded information.. and only preserving links and information to certain sources such as Network of European Technocrats narrows things down to.. in my opinion.. information that is contrived to get people to end up on that particular Network of European Technocrats website.skip sievert (talk) 15:23, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Editor removed links and expanded information again. Restored broadened explanation. skip sievert (talk) 17:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD makes the most sense for the article Technocratic movement

That article should not be merged it should be deleted (Technocratic movement]]. It originally was a vehicle for this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Network_of_European_Technocrats Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Network of European Technocrats - That article should go into an Afd.. because the whole concept of it does not make sense. It was originally written by the person that originated the NET article to claim there even was a Technocracy movement connected outside of North America which there is not.. at least not connected as to the same ideas. skip sievert (talk) 02:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)