Talk:Team Lotus

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[edit] Lotus 33

Can somebodby please find a non-copywright pic of the beautiful 33? We need one! Trekphiler 00:30, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What formula?

The article assumes too much prior knowledge. It says "Lotus achieved rapid success with the 1953 Mk 6, and the 1954 Mk 8," but it hasn't told us what formula this was in! The next paragraph goes on to casually mention Formula 2, which wasn't even wikilinked, but it's not clear if the 1953 and 1954 cars mentioned were F2. Please fix this and remember, your readers might know nothing at all about Team Lotus or racing. --kingboyk 06:16, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lotus 109/Other Bits

Now, it's all a bit hazy, but didn't a 109 debut at the 1994 Spanish Grand Prix in the hands of Herbert (with Alex still stuck in the 107D), and turn out to be something of a dog, and the improvement at Monza was due entirely to a brand new Mugen engine simply pushing the thing down the straights a lot faster (and due to Johnny, of course)? The article as it stands makes it sound like the 109 chassis was responsible for the upturn in progress, when (again, this is dependant on my memory) the new car didn't actually bring around many changes - I remember an interview with Herbert some years later where he was actually very disparaging about it.

Also, I feel that the Mugen Honda/Jordan line (as well as containing the incorrect date) is a bit irrelevant... Someone hit someone, and the first person's team, using the same make of engine a few years later, won a race a few years down the line? It seems less relevant than, say, listing the points scored in 90/91, or Warwick's bravery at Monza/Jerez in '90, or the whole Senna/Warwick/Dumfries thing - none of which probably belong, being footnotes in the team's dying days, so I really don't see the need for the Jordan-Mugen reference...

And maybe Senna's time with the team needs a little expansion... for example, the number of poles he managed, or that in 1985 he was often the fastest man on the track, but the car usually let him down.

But I'm not going to edit anything without a bit of feedback - for one, I could be wrong ;)

Tom Prankerd 18:43, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] One of the most successful?

other than Ferrari, Williams and McLaren...biased much? —Preceding unsigned comment added by GarlicBreath (talkcontribs) 03:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it's biased. If you consider number of wins, poles, points, fastest laps, WCCs and WDCs; in each case Lotus is in 4th place on the all-time list, a substantial margin ahead of the team in 5th place - I think that qualifies them as "one of the most successful F1 teams of all time". DH85868993 (talk) 08:13, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lotus 77 or Lotus 79

There is a photo on the Team Lotus page which has a caption "Lotus 77". When the photo is enlarged it displays a name "Image:Lotus79.jpg". It looks more like a 77 than a 79 to me. How do we fix this please? GTHO (talk) 03:05, 23 April 2008 (UTC)