Talk:Tea (disambiguation)

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There's a separate disambig page on TEA, so I've moved the things that abbreviated to that over there and linked to it from here. I'm not sure this is the most useful thing to do, though. We could conceivably merge these pages into Tea (disambiguation) nad have TEA (disambiguation) redirect here. There definitely should be separate titles, but separate articles? I dunno. JRM 12:06, 2005 Jan 18 (UTC)

• Yes, dab pages that only differ by case should be merged. SchmuckyTheCat 03:18, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The capital letters TEA are initials of various entities or things. There is absolutely no connection between the word "tea" as a beverage and the initials. I suppose it would be possible to insert periods between T.E.A. but that is not the convention. Anyone looking for the Texas Education Agency is going to wonder what is going on when confronted by a list of beverages! MPLX/MH 03:50, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• what are you talking about, it's a disambiguation page. all permutations of TEA of any case are listed. SchmuckyTheCat 06:38, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I have rethought this mess and it is a mess. I did not know at first that "TEA" had been used as a specific direct to one of the lessor meaninigs, or that there were 2 disambiguation pages on top of "TEA" and that there is use of the word "Tea" on top of that!

What needs to be done is very simple (but time consuming, but I will help out.)

• For all meanings of the word "Tea" - a beverage there should be a straight-connect to the beverage with a sub-index on that page for all varieties of tea (the beverage) with links to other tea (beverage) articles.
• The 2 disambiguation pages need linking together as one and a note added to the beverage article that this is about a word meaning beverage, that for use of the initials "TEA" to see the disambiguation page (both TEA and Tea).
• With regards to the floating TEA in caps that should be sent to the beverage article as well as "Tea".

I did extensive searching and found that aside from many Google listings for the Texas Education Agency, the next listing was for Transporation and the third for a Tipperary Energy Agency and all others. I think that should make everyone happy and I will try to sort out the "what links here" pages so that they do not misdirect. MPLX/MH 15:35, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Redirecting TEA

You redirected TEA to tea, and reverted the dab header on Tiny Encryption Algorithm with edit summary "TEA is widely in use for the Texas Education Agency and the federal Transportation Equity act". This is of course true in the outside world, but not on Wikipedia. Check "what links here" on TEA and you will see the most common meaning is Tiny Encryption Algorithm.

Now, of course this is only because we have a lot of people working on encryption-related articles and not because TEA is the most common expansion in the real world. But if readers follow a link to TEA in other articles, they must end up at the right place. Compared to that, it's a minor inconvenience for people who type TEA in the "go" box to have to follow a link to a disambig page.

The alternative is to fix every link to TEA to explicitly go to Tiny Encryption Algorithm. That's a good idea, but the redirect shouldn't be gone before all that is done. Otherwise we'll get some very confused readers when the links break. JRM 17:08, 2005 Apr 6 (UTC)

The results of Special:Whatlinkshere/TEA are misleading because most of the articles link to TEA via Template:Block ciphers. The template used to have a link to TEA; this has now been changed to Tiny Encryption Algorithm. The Whatlinkshere list lags behind because it is only updated when the article using the template is edited. There were a few other links to TEA not via Template:Block ciphers. I fixed these (there were 4 wanting Tiny Encryption Algorithm, 1 wanting Texas Education Agency, and 1 wanting TEA (publisher)). So now it's safe for TEA to be a redirect to Tea (disambiguation) without anyone being surprised by a link. I hope this helps. Gdr 18:58, 2005 Apr 6 (UTC)

Yes, and thank you very much for catching that template link. Obviously I was foolish for taking so many links at face value. I'll take good care to check for that in the future. JRM 21:06, 2005 Apr 6 (UTC)

[edit] Page spinning out of control - needs cleanup

If this disambig page is for listing articles that might otherwise be titled "tea" or "TEA," then articles such as tea ceremony, Bubble Tea, or the band The Tea Party should be delisted. —Tokek 18:54, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Hum. I just did, as a matter of fact. Not "bubble tea", though, as that is, well, not tea, but it can certainly be called that. If you ask me herbal tea isn't tea either, but most folks seem to think it is... It probably pays off to keep those links in so as to not force people to search the main article for them. Tea ceremony and The Tea Party definitely don't belong, though. JRM · Talk 19:02, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

The important thing to remember is that dab pages exist for reader convenience, not defining or categorizing articles.

• "Would a user who typed "Tea" be looking for this article?" If the answer is yes, then it's reasonable to include it. SchmuckyTheCat 01:52, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Exactly. But I've all too often found that people instead use "does the title of this article include the word(s) being disambiguated?" as a criterion, leading to dab pages that are free association games—unwieldy to read and hard to maintain. They're not there to replace "search", nor to serve as replacements for the "see also" section of articles. If I wanted The Tea Party, I'd probably search for "tea party"... and end up at Tea party (disambiguation). JRM · Talk 07:33, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tea/Dinner

Where I grew up, in tasmania (australia), tea unambiguously refered to the evening meal, lunch unambiguously refered to the midday meal, and dinner refered to the main meal, at either midday or the evening. I think the word "tea" to refer to the evening meal is understood by other australians, but I've tried to stop saying it, it sometimes confuses people.

Also, the late afternoon/early evening break during cricket test matches is called tea.