Talk:Te Kuiti

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The following material has been moved here because it is a copyright violation of [1] - and was added without much thought (material already present in the article duplicated, reference to a non-existant image retained). The information below can be incorporated in the article if it is rewritten as original prose in an encyclopaedic style. dramatic 06:28, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

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Dramatic: Te Kuiti itself isn't a particularly notable place, and certainly is one of the last places in the world that i would consider visiting or spending any time in, but I have some good memories and photos to contribute of notable people doin stuff there... I'm not likely to want to continue if they are messed with so mecilessly as the last set though. This article is so un-important no-one got around to making it look good, and as soon as i start on it.... it gets attacked. Google doesnt track a whole segment of life, in case u think it is the be all and end all. Google is still growing as well as wiki, but has a long way to catch up with reality, and I have been active with google for many years. How about exercising your time and energy to add.. thats ADD.. to articles rather than subtract, destruction is so easy, but its also pathetic... how about increasing the value of wiki rather than destroy it so simplistically... notable is specified as known and affecting 5000 people.. thats not a google rule, thats a wiki guide.. get real, and practise some respect of the Kaumatua, or go and fix some real vandalism, but i suspect thats not so rewarding to your character, so i guess we an un-solvable situation.. The standard procedure is to DISCUSS edits here when they are so vicious, not just get out the surgeons knife, how about some considered action first. moza 13:02, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Mozasaur, I'm not sure whether your comment is aimed at my deletion of Bessie Moss yesterday or my handling of the copyvio a couple of months back, so I will answer both. My response to the redlink reference to Bessie Moss was "who is/was she?". 10 minutes searching for anyone by that name with any reference to New Zealand drew a complete blank - that falls well short of both the Wikipedia guidelines for notability and citation. If there is some verifiable material on her and why she should be in an encyclopedia, then people can cgive it due consideration.
As to the copyvio, I was using the gentlest approach possible to a clear violation of Wikipedia policy. There are others who consider that having copyrighted material even in an article's history is illegal and that all articles containing copyvios need to be speedy-deleted and restarted from scratch. I haven't had time to do any constructive editing aimed at reintroducing some of that information in a legitimate way. dramatic 09:09, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Dramatic, youre possibly correct, I'm unsure at this stage, I was just asking for tolerance until we find out. I will get to it, i was just saying that it was less important activity than most. I dont know about that copyvio, and will trust the status quo. I rewrote a few small bits as it did appear to be an ad for a hotel or something like that. I was trying to bring about awareness that it seems too easy to cut and slice when there is so much adding to be done, and its almost habitual by some. The thing is, if the article is already tiny and wobbly, it almost kills it by mercilessly removing things on a technical basis such as not notable. I think an 81 year old is likely known by and has likely affected many more than 5000 people and that they may all want to petition to keep her there.. whats the harm in waiting to see? this wiki is actually evolving in many ways, and is many things to many people, and may become things that we havent even thought up yet, in the meantime lets get on with other MUCH higher level needs. moza 11:52, 19 February 2006 (UTC)