Talk:Taylor Rain
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[edit] Regarding interracial information
Anonymous IPs, such as [1] and [2], have been removing the note about Ms. Rain's take on interracial scenes. However, despite my proof that the claims are verifiable and accurate, these IPs have removed this information without stating why. Therefore, if you believe the text is in error (or the facts themselves are erroneous), please discuss it here. Thank you. -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. Think out loud 23:24, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Wiki mentioned that she did appear in a scene with an Asian male. Can anyone confirm that? I've seen most of her movies and I've never seen her with anyone other than a white male.
Well the same thing just happened to me today! Here is a quote "However, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did to Taylor Rain, is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Tabercil 12:32, 14 July 2007 (UTC)" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.33.164.253 (talk • contribs) 03:03, July 15, 2007
If you check Rick Lee's website, it will show Taylor Rain with him. I read up that he was an Asian porn star who didn't show his face in fear of backlash in his community, but he's definitely Asian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.142.28.50 (talk) 02:26, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bukkake
Taylor did, in fact, do a bukkake scene, with a black man as one of the performers. - Not a member of wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.148.240.194 (talk • contribs) 04:14, 26 October 2006
Well, the beginning of the video says that it's from pornstarnetwork.com.
I've got it on my computer. Good vid. 12 guys. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.148.240.194 (talk • contribs) 03:28, 28 October 2006
She did a blow-bang/bukkake scene in Bakers Dozen 2 (2004). In this scene, she selected twelve guys from a horde of men. None of the guys she selected were black.
Sigaba 22:12, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Howard Stern
Its true I saw her on Howard Stern one night and she confirmed she doesn't do inter-racial scenes because she is afraid to upset her dad. Note: Taylor good job choice if you aren't trying to piss daddy off!
[edit] Baby?
Is it true she's having a baby? One would think that she wouldnt still perform sex onscreen (even if its on her website only) if she was indeed pregnant.
- She might not do sex, but there's a pretty significant market for pregnancy fetishists out there. I wouldn't be surprised to see her do a few nude photo shoots while "with child," at least. Of course, this is totally speculation on my part, and she may just not perform at all during the length of her pregnancy. I'm just saying it isn't impossible, or even improbable. Jeff Silvers 19:11, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] i don't think she's having a baby
in the source she simply said she wants to settle down and start a family.. she didn't exactly say she's expecting.
[edit] Taylor Rain's sexuality
Taylor Rain is bisexual. She has been in videos performing oral on women and recieving it. Page is incorrect, someone is labeling her as heterosexual —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.coolz (talk • contribs) 14:49, December 15, 2006
- But she's a porn star. I believe a number of straight men appear in gay movies (not my kind of think I hasten to add!). Something this sweeping would seem to require more than her acting career to support it? Or am I way of base here ? Pedro1999a | Talk 15:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- Exactly. Actors, whether in or out of the porn business, frequently play characters diametrically different from themselves. You can't generally extrapolate someone's sexual orientation from the actions they engage in for a movie role. Valrith 20:47, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Unsourced changes???
According to User:Valrith the changes i made were unsourced, well here are the sources.
change #1
She performed her first [[double anal]] in '''Un-Natural [[Sex]] 12'''
you can see it on the milestones here
change #2
Altough she acted in a movie in [[2006]] named '''Love Between the Cheeks'''
check the year of the film here
Neoarchon 20:24, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw a video of her where she was asked and she stated she was pure hetero. I can link it if needed, but yeah, no Bi. 69.4.153.171 (talk) 08:45, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Height?
Is there a source for her height being 5'3? I am quite certain she's 5'7 or taller. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikilled007 (talk • contribs) 03:46, May 20, 2007
- Well, IAFD and AFDB both say 5'4", but IMDb and Rain's official site both say 5'3". I'll add a ref for the 5'3" to the article shortly... Valrith 14:33, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Loveline
Valrith, just because something is not sourced doesn't mean it needs to be erased. Wikipedia wouldn't give the citation tag if they didn't want it. If someone looks at the article, they might be able to source it. Otherwise, useful info is erased. Leaving it with a citation tag is fine with wikipedia rules. 24.32.34.132 16:18, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Well I looked online... Googling the phrase "taylor rain loveline" brings up this forum posting. It says the caller went by the name "Regan/Reagan" so there's no firm proof that it was Taylor. As well, being that it's a forum, we can't use it for a citation per WP:EL and WP:RS. Tabercil 23:34, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks. You at least noted that it is not true. Valrith has a habit of erasing everything if unsourced, at least from what I've seen. I noticed you said to check the talk page. Thanks for the note on that in the history. 24.32.34.132 21:11, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
- I just listened to the 1-20-2003 show and I can confirm that Taylor called the show. She calls about 52 minutes into the show. The "Regan" comment is irrelevent, the person who commented that obviously didn't listen to the whole show. Regan is the show's first caller. Taylor Rain calls later on, identifies herself as Taylor Rain, talks about an appearance in Hustler and it is definitely her voice. Google the torrent for the show if you want to confirm it yourself. - RJ 68.175.63.46 17:05, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- That's nice, but unfortunately, what you've done falls under the no original research rules since you are judging the two voices to be of the same person. As a result the information cannot be allowed into the article. Tabercil 22:20, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- I just listened to the 1-20-2003 show and I can confirm that Taylor called the show. She calls about 52 minutes into the show. The "Regan" comment is irrelevent, the person who commented that obviously didn't listen to the whole show. Regan is the show's first caller. Taylor Rain calls later on, identifies herself as Taylor Rain, talks about an appearance in Hustler and it is definitely her voice. Google the torrent for the show if you want to confirm it yourself. - RJ 68.175.63.46 17:05, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks. You at least noted that it is not true. Valrith has a habit of erasing everything if unsourced, at least from what I've seen. I noticed you said to check the talk page. Thanks for the note on that in the history. 24.32.34.132 21:11, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Orientation and MySpace
I deem the information to be credible. Taylor's official website ClubTaylorRain.com has a clear link to her MySpace page, as seen in her Journal page. Looking on the MySpace page, it clearly lists under Taylor Rain's details: "Orientation: Straight". Tabercil 21:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- Valrith has a history of getting into edit wars, censoring information, and being very stubborn in controlling article content. This is one edit where he has no merit in continually reverting it. IrisKawling 00:41, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Other Early Films
The first time I saw Taylor Rain was on one of those "college party" sites that pretends to be footage of real frat parties where girls get drunk and have sex. This article makes no metion of this. She was an unknown and probably didn't have a major contract yet. Also, I am 100% positive that I once stumbled upon some obscure, poorly made, independent video where she received a golden shower. She was filmed totally nude, kneeling in a shower, and even opened her mouth while receiving! It was difinitely Taylor Rain. She's also been in other "indie-looking" films where she walks around naked outdoors on public streets and gives oral sex bihind a car.
- Tayler recieves multiple golden showers (and perform bisexual) in "Max Hardcore Extreme 20" (euro version, 2004) with Catalina and Max Hardcore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.215.189.126 (talk) 08:30, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
74.192.176.78 07:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
The scene of her kneeling in the shower to receive a 'golden shower' sounds like the scene she did for PissMops.com. Godzuki 08:02, 25 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Godzuki (talk • contribs)
[edit] Numbers for "Notes" are incorrect...?
I have noticed that the numbers for the "Notes" are incorrect. I'm not sure how to fix this other than maybe changing them from "Notes" to "References," and I didn't want to make that big of a change to the page without dicusingg it first since I've never made changes to this particular Wikipedia page in the past. None of these technical problems with the "Notes" would be an issue if we simply used references by putting each relevant link in brackets at the end of each sentence/section that requires a citation or source, but again, that would require completely changing the links throughout the article and I didn't want to do that without posting this on the discussion page first.
Here are the specific sentences that have "Notes" attached to them, and the specific ways in which they are given the wrong number:
--- "She claims that she was attending Cypress College to become a flight attendant but changed her mind after the September 11, 2001 attacks and decided on a career in the pornographic film industry.[2]" (if you look below at the "Notes" section, Note #2 is "Asian man who performed with Taylor Rain" but the appropriate note for this sentence would be the link for "Interview on lukeisback.com")
--- "She has also never appeared in a scene with a black performer and has said she will simply not do interracial scenes, although she has been with Lloyd Banks in her private life and she has appeared in one scene with Rick Lee, an Asian male [3] [4]" (this is correct to point to Note #4, but if you look at Note #3, that's the one that says, "Taylor Rain Meets Cytherea: KSEXRadio.com interview" but the appropriate note or reference for the Asian male sentence would be the link for "Asian man who performed with Taylor Rain")
--- "This choice may be due to her father's influence, for his dislike of interracial sexual relations [5] (if you look below at the "Notes" section, Note #5 is the link for "Taylor Rain announces her retirement from on-screen sex" but the appropriate note for this sentence would be the link for "Taylor Rain discusses her sexual experience with Lloyd Banks" because it's in that interview where she mentions that her father would be so angry if he found out that she had sex with an African-American)
--- "In December 2005, she announced her retirement from acting in pornographic movies and will focus on directing titles, and spend more time on her new pay website, in which she will submit photo galleries, hardcore videos, and chat with fans online. Taylor also announced she wants to settle down and start a family, and that retirement will allow her to do that [6]." (if you look below at the "Notes" section, Note #6 is the link for "Taylor Rain announces her pregnancy" but the appropriate note for this section would be the link for "Taylor Rain announces her retirement from on-screen sex")
--- "In June 2006 she announced her pregnancy on her website [7]..." (if you look at the Notes section, Note #7 is the link for "Taylor Rain states she miscarried" but the appropriate note for this section would be the link for "Taylor Rain announces her pregnancy")
--- "... but miscarried one month later [8]." (if you look at the Notes section, Note #8 is the link for "Taylor Rain won the Porn Star Beauty Pageant on the Howard Stern Radio Show" but the appropriate note for this section would be the link for "Taylor Rain states she miscarried")
--- "She was the winner of the Porn Star Beauty Pageant on the Howard Stern Radio Show in March 2005, beating out fellow porn stars Kami Andrews, Railee, Renee Pornero, and Aurora Snow [9]." (if you look at the Notes section, Note #9 is the link for "Taylor Rain: Did Some Time..." but the appropriate note for this section would be the link for "Taylor Rain won the Porn Star Beauty Pageant on the Howard Stern Radio Show" ... and I would also contend that this sentence should be in the section prior to her retirement because this is something that happened before her retirement)
--- "In February 2007, she spent 20 days in jail for possession of marijuana and driving under the influence.[10]" (if you look at the Notes section, Note #10 is the link for Taylor Rain's MySpace page, which is not a source for this or anything else because it's set to private... the appropriate note for this sentence would be the link for "Taylor Rain: Did Some Time..." which is the post from her web site in which she details her stay in prison... I'm also going to be adding more of the details from her web site post because there is a lot of notable information in that post in addition to the one sentence that is already on the Wikipedia page) --76.100.228.151 (talk) 09:03, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
FOLLOW-UP: Well it has been like 10 days and there has still been no response to anyone about this in the discussion area. So unless somebody objects in the next couple days, I am going to go ahead and make those changes to the links so that the correct references/notes point to the correct URLs. --76.100.228.151 (talk) 07:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)--76.100.228.151 (talk) 07:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Okay, I'm fixing the links now
I previously posted on the Discussion page and asked others if it was okay if I changed the Notes/References links to be more accurate, and there are still no responses, and the links are still not aligned properly and pointing where they are supposed to point. So I am going to fix them now. All of the links will point to the URLs that they're supposed to point to. --76.100.228.151 (talk) 07:11, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I have now made a bunch of improvements including fixing the References/Notes section so that the links actually point to the URLs that they are supposed to point to, plus added an additional link/reference regarding Taylor Rain's resignation from her writing job at her ex-husband Scott Fayner's web site, plus fixed numerous small typos and grammar issues. An "edit bot" initially cancelled all of my changes because of one link to Taylor Rain's MySpace page, so I have re-published my changes with the MySpace link having been removed. I don't mind doing that, and the MySpace link was only there in the first place because it provided a reference for her sexual orientation being heterosexual. --76.100.228.151 (talk) 08:01, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] First sex
In the movie "ALS Scan #52 Featuring Taylor Rain" that shows her during a photo session she admits (at around 1h:31m) that she had her first anal sex at 14 ("to stay virgin") and the first vaginal at 15 years. 86.57.153.140 (talk) 19:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)