Talk:Tassos Isaac
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Is it not better to combine Isaac and Solomou into one article, especially since the events are so closely tied? Perhaps 1996 Greek Cypriot demonstrations or something? Cheers, --A.Garnet 17:25, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- I don't really agree with that. They were two different persons, each one worth a separate reference. Do you suggest for example we should consolidate all Greek heroes of the 1821 Revolution (Theodoros Kolokotronis, Georgios Karaiskakis, Athanasios Diakos, Odysseas Androutsos etc) into one article? -- Avg 22:35, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
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- I also disagree. They are two different persons, and two different incidents.--Yannismarou 11:15, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Given that the buffer zone was no-go with the possibility of trespassers being killed, and that the demonstrations were provocative in themselves, I'm inclined to think that he was either incredibly stupid, or he went into the buffer zone knowing that he would be killed and thus his death would have gained a lot of political capital. Of course, any killings are to be deplored, but any sane person does not try to cross a hostile demarcation line if there is a definite possibility of being killed. Expatkiwi
- What a sick explanation! I rest my case... Let the people see what u have written... Hectorian 03:57, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- How about investigating if you're REALLY an expat Kiwi... I don't know many "expat Kiwis" whose "favorite image" is the flag of TRNC carved on Cyprus soil...-- Avg 19:42, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
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- It's called ill-informed pseudo-libertarianism. Many people seem to think that by supporting "TRNC" and other centers of organized crime and similar nasty regimes masquerading as states is supporting "human rights" and "self-determination". The fact that Turkish Cypriots don't want an independent "TRNC" (not even Mehmet Ali Talat wants independence), but would rather be reincorporated with the Republic of Cyprus so that they can cash in on EU membership and enjoy being subject to a government which Freedom House ranks higher than the current "TRNC" "government" in their upholding political rights and civil liberties is irrelevant. Thulium 19:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
The act of encroaching into the buffer zone was foolhardy and it cost him his life. I don't call that martyrdom; I call it stupidity. Of course, the Turkish Cypriots who mobbed and beat him to death are not whom I would call sane either. Still, given the hatreds and mistrust that exists to this day between the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot populace, such an action would not have been unexpected, and I believe that the demonstration organizers were hoping that something of the kind would occur. Expatkiwi
- So it's Issac's fault he was killed? Interesting. Thulium 19:24, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- Also, are you sure it was Turkish Cypriots who committed the murder? I thought it was Turkish thugs who had been shipped in from Turkey. Thulium 19:27, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
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- They were both. See the warrants, they are against Turkish and Turkish-Cypriot citizens. Their link was that they were members of Grey Wolves. -- Avg 19:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- Wow, thats some wierd reasoning right there, particularly coming from someone who 'memorializes Rhodesia'. People do not act as individual utilitarian units, summing up the net welfare cost and gain of their actions constantly, not least the expectation of being beaten to death by thugs and so called 'police'. Regardless, your your issue with Isaac and Solomou's deaths are moot points, they WERE murdered, a majority of reasonable human beings believe their deaths were an absolutely sickening indictment upon the widespread influence of Turkish nationalism and ergo, your views are just a drop in an ocean of consensus. I won't bother to point out the blatant hypocrisy of your comments on this page compared to your comments on others. It appears you are quite aggrevated by the whole Cyprus dispute (for what reason I can't possibly guess) and generally hold pretty outrageous views that aren't really taken seriously on here by anyone.--86.138.232.97 06:50, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
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- Stick to discussing the article please, everyone. Otherwise there will be unnecessary tension. Baristarim 06:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC)