User talk:Tariqabjotu/Archive Seventeen

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Re: L'shanah Tovah

And you, sir, have a meaningful Ramadan. - CrazyRussian talk/email 00:38, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

BTW, I am from St. Petersburg which is 6 degrees south of the arctic circle. The longest day of the year is about 20 hrs sunup 4 horus sundown, and even when the sun is down, it never gets dark. And there are oodles of Muslims from the many Muslim provinces of Russia. What are they to do there? What about north of the arctic circle where some days don't end at all? - CrazyRussian talk/email 00:42, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

The ruling on those cases differs, but all basically end with "you have to fast for a very long time". If you're truly interested in the matter, I would suggest (mainly page four of) this article (note sahur refers to the time before the fast, and that the end of sahur coincides with fajr, which means dawn, when fasting begins). -- tariqabjotu 03:12, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Heh... Dude has a fine string of titles after his name. Almost runs into a second line. Sounds a lot like Judaism, only more complicated. We pray three times a day - you five, we fast five days a year - you thirty. Thanks for the link. - CrazyRussian talk/email 08:53, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Ramadan mubarak

Delayed greetings. Hope all is well. -- Samir धर्म 01:17, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Review me

Hi - I request you to please visit and share your views at Wikipedia:Editor review/Rama's Arrow 2. I need your advice and criticism, and I would be immensely grateful if you could spare a little time on this. Thank you, Rama's arrow 15:36, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

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Portal:Current events section

Hi I have a question regarding the current events page you redesigned. I've stolen most of your design on Portal:Current events/Video gaming, but I was wondering if you knew of a way in which I could get it to only display the days Monday-Friday. Since this is a very commercial area, nothing tends to happen on Saturday or Sunday, and if there is some big event, I can always add that page manually. Thanks! jaco♫plane 00:48, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

These changes, coupled with the introduction of Portal:Current events/Video gaming/Inclusion did the trick. Right now, it only displays the last five days, but if you want, I can extend it to seven (or ten or something) or you may figure out how to edit the template yourself. -- tariqabjotu 04:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that! I'll try to figure out the template, so that I won't have to bother you in the future :) I'll take a look at the month archive page question you posted and let you know what I think. Cheers, jaco♫plane 16:25, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907

About changing the blurb - I meant to add the info about the wreckage having been found to today's section (September 30) and edited the original blurb instead. Could a September 30 section be created? Fvasconcellos 15:37, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

You just have - thank you. Fvasconcellos 15:38, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Admin graphs

I am glad to see you are keeping these up to date :). FYI, the May number seems to be off a bit (we had it at 929, but it appears the correct number is 925), all the other months check out exactly so far. I have been reviewing the meta and en.wiki user rights logs to go backwards and track the numbers more exactly (see the bottom of my page User:NoSeptember/admincount). Small numbers changes don't mean much, but I figure why not see how accurate I can get. Cheers, NoSeptember 19:15, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

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RE: do not bite new users.

Nelson nyc has been adding this link to ban ki moon's page without any regard to NPOV principles. Firstly, as you may know, the article he had added is biased and not a reliable source for wikipedia. BTW, my last account's password is lost; just to let you know im not a sock puppet. Login to earth 20:37, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

WP:RM

Hi Tariqabjotu! Since I've seen you around WP:RM a lot, you've probably noticed that {{WP:RM}} has changed quite a bit in the past week or so. Would you like to comment on the talk page about which format you like best? Thanks. —Mets501(talk) 13:49, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

ER

Hi Tariq - I request you to please visit Wikipedia:Editor review/Rama's Arrow 2 when u have time. I need your criticism and advice on improving myself - I will greatly appreciate your input. Thanks, Rama's arrow 14:50, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

RfA

After Eid, shall we go for Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Joturner 3? - CrazyRussian talk/email 03:17, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I'd be up for it (although perhaps Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Tariqabjotu 2 would be a better location). Yanksox and Aguerriero both offered to nominate me back in August, but I said I'd hold off. And Kingboyk said he'd nominate me if I ask him in November. So, I think that meets the two-admin threshold I mentioned on User:Tariqabjotu/Rationale. -- tariqabjotu 03:25, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, I hadn't known you were open to running again. You have another offer. A deep and meaningful Ramadan to you too. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 03:28, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a million. I'll probably wait two more weeks, as I'm just too busy at the moment. -- tariqabjotu 03:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I am ready when you are. - CrazyRussian talk/email 03:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Me too. --Aguerriero (talk) 17:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

You have an offer from the nominator of your very first RFA as well. – Chacor 17:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Here's another offer. Don't it feel good to be popular? -- Samir धर्म 00:32, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmm... even though my time is being freed up, I'm still going to wait for my semi-wikibreak to conclude. However, that makes you, CrazyRussian, Blnguyen, Aguerriero, Chacor, Yanksox (offered in August), and possibly Kingboyk (offered in August but suggested I wait until six months after RfA 2). Even if all of you don't go through with your co-nominations, I am quite honored so many offers have been made at all. -- tariqabjotu 02:54, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I've got it up and running at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Tariqabjotu. All the best! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:24, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

(I assumed you meant Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Tariqabjotu 2). Thanks a million! Note, however, it may be a couple days before this goes live, as several people (as noted above) wanted to co-nominate me. -- tariqabjotu 02:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks from StuffOfInterest

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which finished with a tally of 52/6/1 (~90%). It was an interesting process which gave me a chance to learn a bit about myself and about the community. My intention now is to slowly ease into using those additional buttons on my page. No use being over eager and mucking up the works. The support of all those who went over my record and/or rallied to my defense after the big oppose vote was instumental to the success of this review. Again, thank you! --StuffOfInterest 11:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

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Re; List of Brahmin etc

I would take the initiative in getting the List of Muslims articles deleted, but I was criticized quite strongly when I did just that back in February (although there were additional factors that led to that criticism). Perhaps, however, it might have been better if I had co-nominated fewer articles to appear less drastic. -- tariqabjotu 20:09, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I personally can see no reason to have any page that is called List of Muslims (or Brahmins or Christians or sun-worshippers) because it must, of necessity be selective. I mean, if List of Muslims is to be entirely accurate, how many thousands of millions of people will be in it? "List of notable Muslims"? Who's to say. "List of Muslim athletes"? Pointless. (And in all of the above, Muslim can be replaced with any other religion, belief, whatever.)

There is probably need for a much wider debate within Wikipedia on the acceptability of such titles, but I am very new here and would not know how to start it, though I would happily support sucj a move. Emeraude 20:25, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Vaccinium_vitis-idaea

Hi! Please take a look at Talk:Vaccinium_vitis-idaea. --Espoo 00:56, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Move proposal: Départements of France

Hello Tariq- I think I got it right this time. Thanks for the heads-up! -Eric ^(talk) 14:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Double redirects

Please be careful in the future when changing an article to a redirect that you are not creating a double redirect like you did at Saint Andrew's Cross. I have fixed them all for you this time. --Pascal666 01:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of the collateral damage. I often would take care of only a couple double redirects – if any – because manually correcting double redirects, especially for articles with many of them (like Saint Andrew's Cross) could be quite tedious. Now that I see AWB takes care of double redirects (I'm sure I knew that at one point), I'll make sure I use that in the future when performing a move. Nevertheless, thanks again. -- tariqabjotu 02:44, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

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Re: Image:Texas Flag at DKR - North Texas vs Texas 2006.jpg

• Hello Tariqabjotu - thank you for your messages and for your help with the situation. Yes, I agree with you, the Image should not have been used on the second page. That was my mistake. Most images I upload are free because I have either taken them myself, gotten permission for them, or gotten them from the US govt. I forgot that image had a non-commercial license. I have removed it from the article where it was not fair use. Thanks again, Johntex\^talk 22:33, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

• Alright; I'm glad that got straightened out. It was an honest mistake; it happens to the best of us. -- tariqabjotu 22:42, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks! Best wishes to you and your family! Rama's arrow 22:50, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks for you wishes, and all the best! --Bhadani 04:06, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

New Orleans move

Could you please close the proposed move at Talk:New Orleans, Louisiana? It should have been properly closed as no consensus a while ago. Thanks in advance. Tinlinkin 05:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I closed the move request. Note also you can close a move request by just removing the {{move}} template from the top and, optionally, adding {{subst:polltop}} '''some result'''. ~~~~ before a section and {{subst:polltop}} after it. -- tariqabjotu 05:22, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, okay. I thought closing a contested move request required administrator intervention, and is done by selected people, as with WP:AFD. Tinlinkin 05:32, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

As far as I know, administrators are not the only ones allowed to close move requests. I'm not an administrator, and I've been doing it for a couple months now. No one has stopped me yet (most likely because WP:RM often gets backlogged and so the help is appreciated). I have gotten at least one complaint regarding a move request close, but that got resolved. -- tariqabjotu 05:41, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Eid Mubarak

And best to you and your family -- Samir धर्म 05:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks; all is quite well in fact. -- tariqabjotu 22:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

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Yoghurt move

I commend your decision; I would have done the exact same thing had I had the ability to do so. Score one for the discussion team. -- tariqabjotu 04:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! —Mets501 (talk) 10:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Templates and insults

No, that's not true. If used on an experienced editor it's a clear and calculated insult which says (at best) "You are too stupid to understand the rules, so I am spelling them out to you like a newbie". There is no reason to use {{3RR}} on anyone who is familiar with the rule unless you want to insult them. Guettarda 02:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Well... I'm not sure if I'd go so far as to say it's a "clear and calculated insult." However, I do wish alternate templates that don't go over the basics of the rules like that could be written. {{sofixit}} is by far one of the worst. (I used {{sofixit}} as an example, so you wouldn't respond to that wish for alternate templates with precisely that template) Nevertheless, I will often use the standard templates in the rare situations I need to post them on the talk pages of longtime editors not because I want to insult the recipient, but rather because it's simpler (custom messages end up saying the same thing usually). That's why I was so alarmed by your response to Serge. -- tariqabjotu 02:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Using a template to communicate with someone amounts to making the decision that they are not worth the effort of actually writing them a message. That's great for things like {{welcome}} (people don't expect any welcome, so boilerplate is appreciated). This is also true of the {{tl|test} family of templates - more often than not, a vandal isn't worth your time. Beyond these (and perhaps some that I am unfamiliar with) boilerplate is fairly rude. Using {{3RR}} to inform a new user of the 3 revert rule really isn't the best way to communicate with a new editor, but the benefit of informing someone of the rule may outweigh the fact that it's rude. Using {{NPA}} has the benefit that it may save you replying to the insult.

Using one of these templates on an established user does nothing but insult the person. It's safe enough that any established user knows the 3RR. It takes a couple seconds to figure out whether you are dealing with an established editor or a newbie. If you say "FYI - you're at three reverts" and the person actually doesn't know what you are talking about, they will say "what are you talking about". There is no way an admin can try to argue ignorance of the 3RR, and since Serge had responded to a comment of mine in which I had discussed how wrong it was for Mets501 to have move-protected the page when he moved it (I hadn't realised that it was move-protected initially), there is no way that he couldn't know I was an admin (unless he claims to be ignorant of the fact that only admins can move move-protected pages).

Any established user should at the very least know the 3RR. Spelling out the rules s..l..o..w..l..y and in great detail is an insult. Including the diffs is aggressive. Serge's actions were clearly unacceptable. If you want to call someone stupid and threaten them, then you should be brave enough to call them that openly and deal with the consequences. Insults like Serge's are unacceptable, clear violations of WP:NPA. I see no reason to tolerate the sort of behaviour. Guettarda 20:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

bite

Asking folks to be reasonable is a bite? Okay... I'll try to remember that. Please vote. --Serge 23:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Naming Conventions poll

I'm confused. I've seen references to "Tariq's proposal" but when I scanned, I found JohnK's proposal that you supported (move 27 AP cities). Can you point me to the most recent statement of your proposal? If your proposal is inactive, I intend to oppose the current proposal in favor of reopening the discussion around a proposal I can support.

In the name of antidisruption, I am willing to support some such proposal, even though I otherwise support the comma convention. These debates are just a PITA, and the AP list provides a sufficient backstop and rationale as to which cities to include. Thanks for your contributions to this discussion. --ishu 04:12, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

The proposal they are referring to is this one. Serge closed john k's proposal and my proposal because people were complaining there were too many proposals open concurrently, not because there was anything wrong with the other two. -- tariqabjotu 04:28, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For your service and dedication to Wikipedia. Enjoy! Sharkface217 23:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow; I really was not expecting that. Thanks! It seems like you're doing a couple random acts of kindness of your own... -- tariqabjotu 00:27, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

My Editor Review

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