Talk:Tao Yang (Wuxi)

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[edit] Yet Another Application of Computational Verbs

Today I tried a new product claimming computational verbs inside. It is a fire alarm for my kitchen by using a webcam hooking onto my pc. The only problem is the max length of the USB cable is only 5m short!!!! Otherwise, I am impressed by the product. It can detect the flame from my gas stove and make the location on my pc. But I wonder where the computational verb fit into this product because for me it is only a simple digital image processing problem. Anyone know that part?

[edit] 2nd one

Why all chinese guys called themselves Tao Yang! I am confused, so many Tao Yang from math to eng, from phy to bio...

Hi, if you are this Tao Yang, please contact John at my email, I called one in Canada and failed. I am interested in cellular image processing. I need to discuss the application issues with you! I am now working on building a cellular computer to do some meaningful computations. Thanks. You know my email address because I gave you my biz card last time we met.

By the way, this is for VanceChen. I removed your remark because it is too personal. I don't know your background, but I know computer science is HUGE. No one today can 100% sure what topic is not studied in this field. I will hesitate to make my points before I read at least the abstracts of these papers.

[edit] Suggestion

I suggest to move VanceChen's words into the visible place. Free speech should be allowed here. I have worked for Tao Yang for more than two years. He is a super smart guy. Once he told me: In some deepest background of Chinese blood, technical/engineering things are always looked down by many students from Chinese academic systems because they are very pround of to be "scientists". However, they forget lots of scientists also need to make things work. Theoretical and mathematical works are simple perfect and amazing in many aspects, yet, to serve humanity well, we need to make things for people. Therefore, engineering and sciences are of the same importance.

I don't want to be wordy. I can guess the basic education of VanceChen must be finished in Chinese Academic system to have such a clear definition between engineer and sci. in the mind. :-) Luckily, I have the same definition in my mind too, therefore, I feel so closed to the thoughts of VanceChen.

Tao Yang changed my viewpoint of this kind of thing, yet, I still think Science must be surperior to engineer. Without Sci, how can eng. develop? Without phy. how can we have ele? Right? I totally agree with VanceChen from this standing point and I will stick to it all my life though my boss still try to persude me to agree with him because I am a pure programmer, an Engineer educated by some computer sci. And, on the other hand, my boss, to my surprise, also know how to program in C and can read his emails from his own laptop, is a stupid sci from my point of view.

What is the difference between a smart programmer(an engineer) and a stupid computer sci? Well, I can make from every line of my code some real money, while a stupid sci can only waste money on non-creative papers.

What is the difference between a stupid programmer(an engineer) and a smart computer sci? Well, A stupid programmer make all his money from his code while a smart computer sci like my boss turn some of his creative papers into money.

I think I have made my point pure and simple. I will cut and copy VanceChen's discussion in below, VanceChen had the right to make things free to everyone.

[edit] citation from VanceChen

This guy is hardly a "computer scientist". At best, he's only an engineer. Listing a bunch of paper means nothing.

It's embarrassing to list him in "chinese computer scientist" besides C. C. Yao.

Suggesting remove the page totally!

[edit] What makes compu. verbs powerful?

Mr. Yang once gave a talk on comp verb in our Univ. That talk was too philosophy and had no means to apply compu verb. I am now working on my Ph.D works, my instructor wants me to apply compu verb to controller design. This gives me some real chance to learn compu verb. The math can be as deep as ocean, yet the design rules are as simple write c++ codes. I wonder why this kind of theory tooks such a long time to invent! :-(

[edit] New Connections

This is the first time that I find the way to add my comments. I recently come across a link found by google, it shows that computational verb fuzzy controllers are now taught in undergrad's courses. What an amazing achievement! Please check the link for the full pdf files before its removal: www.ee.cityu.edu.hk/~gchen/6452/Lec-7.pdf Enjoy!

[edit] The applications of Computational verb theory to fog penetration

Using a commercial CCD or CMOS video camera together with any PCs or embedded systems, computational verb theory can be applied to the fog penetrating vision system for automobiles. The entire system is much cheaper than other vision fog penetrating systems where special kinds of video cameras must be used.