Talk:Tanks in World War II
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- Most of the t-26s were obsolete, very very very few had radios.
- A tank can not be based on a suspension system! It can have it inside it but a tank can not be based on a suspensions system that sentence was so wrong.
- T-28 had a twin turret, I just added it as extra info. And it was equal to the Pz 3 not 4.
- T-34 improved version remained battle worthy, 2 words by the way, until the 50s not just 1945.
- No commanders cupola on the first T-34 models and no radios, Kv tanks did have radios but only the company commander had a transmitter the rest only had receivers.
- Lend Lease tanks went to the Far East to replace the home made tanks there.
Worhopen 01:25, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
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- I had to revert some of your edits along with some vandalism by other editors.
- T-26 was no worse than the numeous German Pz-II, 35(t) and 38(t) it faced.
- Tank designs are frequently described as being 'based on' a suspension system. It may not make sense to you but it is a common usage of language.
- T-28s did not have twin turrets. See the wiki article. T-28s had a single main turret with a 76.2mm gun and two smaller machinegun turrets. The low-velocity 76.2mm gun is more comperable to the Pzkw-IV's short 75mm than to the 37mm and 50mm guns of the 1941-vintage Pzkw-III.
- All T-34s were designed to have radio and many early models had them. Most German and US tanks lacked transmitters also.
- Lend-lease tanks were used in all theatres.
- DMorpheus 15:50, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- I had to revert some of your edits along with some vandalism by other editors.
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- Most T-26s were worse because
- A no spare parts
- B poor maintenance
- C the design was very old
- T-28, a tank is not just a gun the Pz4 was many times superior to the t-28 because the pz4 had radios, a commanders cupola and was several time more mechanically reliable.
- T-34, No most T-34s did NOT have radios less then 10% did if even that.
- Far East, yes tanks saw actions everywhere but the VAST MAJORITY went to replace domestic tanks in the east because they were superior to what was shipped.
- T-34, No most T-34s did NOT have radios less then 10% did if even that.
- T-28, a tank is not just a gun the Pz4 was many times superior to the t-28 because the pz4 had radios, a commanders cupola and was several time more mechanically reliable.
Worhopen 03:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
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- Sorry; look, you claimed the T-26 was "hopelessly obsolete" (your words) - an obsolete design is completely different than a poorly-maintenanted tank force. How poor maintenance and lack of spare parts are two different things is beyond me, so I am not sure why you'd list them as separate items. The T-26 was far from a great design but it was no worse in basic characteristics to the numerous German 35(t) and 38(t)s, and far better than the pzkw-II. Its gun could penetrate any German tank in 1941; its two-man turret was the same layout used on the Czech tanks. It was no worse that many British and Italian tanks also in use about this time and into 1942. Calling it obsolete is a stretch. The T-34 made most other tanks, German and Soviet, look outdated. But it makes no sense to single out the T-26 as obsolete.
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- All T-28s had radios. Pretty good for a design dating from 1933. The gun was similar to the pzkw-IV. The armor was better on the up-armored versions. It had a three-man turret. Pzkw-IV more mechanically reliable? Yes, certainly. I don't think you can document that it was "several times" more reliable, whatever that means. You claimed the T-28 had twin turrets and was most comperable to the pzkw-III; not true.
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- All T-34s were designed to have radio. At some periods, only 10% actually had them - but not all all periods. Early models generally had radio. By 1943 all had radio. It was during the tough period of late 1941 thru early 1943 that radios were not always fitted.
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- Please provide some statistics to show that the vast majority of Lend-lease tanks went to the far east. You can't, because they didn't. Almost all were used on the Soviet-German front.
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- regards, DMorpheus 12:25, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
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