Talk:Tango music

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[edit] Gaining popularity in Europe

"Tango soon became the first of many Latin dance crazes to gain popularity in Europe"

I change that for simply "it began to gain popularity in Europe, beginig in France"

Because the "latin" term is problematic, France is latin in the first place.


And I changed the part where it said that it was a mix of European, african and native american rithms because there is not native american influence in tango, besides there was no important native american population at that time in Buenos AIres and Montevideo. All the styles that influenced it were either African (from the slaves, mostly in Uruguay, since there were not many blacks left in BA) or European (from the immigrants of that time, mostly from Polish, French and Spanish dances).

[edit] Differences between orchestras

Does anyone have any links that would help show differences in style/orchestra? I am thinking about the same song - different artists; something like "el choclo" or "la cumparsita" comes up. We would only need short sequences to highlight the differences...?! dekay 14:22, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Que vergoña dedicarle mucho mas lugar al gotan project que a todos los grandes del tango... en fin, uno se pone viejo. pero igual: oh my gosh.

[edit] Removed pop culture

I removed the paragraph below because it isn't relevant. Tango has been featured in lots of movies, TV shows and other parts of pop culture -- as a matter of fact, tango has long constituted a major part of pop culture. Tuf-Kat

Shakira released a song — "Te Aviso, Te Anuncio (Tango)" — which starts with a tango-like part (and also features some seconds of tango dancing in its video). The musical Chicago by John Kander and Fred Ebb was recently made into a film and also features a tango, the "Cell Block Tango", where murderers or, at least, accused murderers from a women's prison in Chicago greet newcomer to the jail (Roxie Hart) in their own way. The soundtrack of Waking Life features tango music prominently; the feature track is called "The Twenty-First Century Tango". Another movie featuring a good tango scene is Moulin Rouge, to a fusion of the Police song "Roxanne" with Mariano Mores's "Tanguera" — creating "El tango de Roxanne".
Ahh but don't forget to mention that the tango is also featured in recent popular culture movies. "Guess Who" with Ashton Kutcher and Bernie Mac and also the most recent "Rent!"


[edit] Center only in Argentina?

Most of the people think that Tango was born in Montevideo (Uruguay), place also were the most famous Tango (La Cumparsita) was composed. Though, I don't see any good mention to Uruguay.

I disagree strongly with that. Who is most of the people? Is there really any evidence? I have been looking through different web pages and encyclopediae, and found nothing relating the origin of Tango with Montevideo.


I was listening to a talk by performers with Tango Tinto who also stated that it started in Uruguay. Part of the confusion may stem from the fact that under Spanish rule, what is now Uruguay was the 'Banda Orientale' of the Province of the Rio Plate. The Rio Plate province is often identified with modern Argentina. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.141.229.6 (talk) 12:45, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contradiction

The page contains a contradiction: that the Golden Age ended after Gardel's death (1935) and that it ran from 1935-1952 (i.e. it started after his death). Well which is it? [adonovan] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.119.128.203 (talk • contribs)

You'r right. The Golden Age was from 1930 to 1950 (aprox). I fixed the text. Mariano(t/c) 08:59, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tango-related article deletion

Please vote Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tango.info (2nd nomination). `'mikka (t) 18:47, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On electronic tango

The part about gotan project is very old dated (2004) I haven't changed anything because I'm not very skilled and the only thing new I know about it is that they have a new album called Lunatico (like Gardel's horse).

I updated this section a bit, and I'm removing this line, since it is not relevant to tango music as a whole: "Out-takes from the recording of Lunático were aired on Gilles Peterson's show "Worldwide" aired on BBC one in May 2004."--kidbritish 00:13, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

How about a mention of Otros Aires. They are a good example of neo-tango using very old samples to blend new with old. DSC 22:37, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Artists / Bands

I created a new wiki-page for Florindo Sassone.

Information on the net is really sparse. If anyone would like to fill in the missing information, feel free to do it.

On a more general scale, there are many Tango-bands/artists that do not show up on wikipedia, so it might be useful to improve this.

-- Discoleo (talk) 18:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kevin Johansen

I am putting Kevin Johansen in at the milonga page. It seems more appropriate since some of his songs have a milonga rhythm, not a tango rhythm. Binksternet (talk) 17:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Macho lyrics

This sentence seems unnecessary, and does not seem to fit with general opinion, "Lyrics were still typically macho, blaming women for countless heartaches, and the dance moves were still sexual and aggressive."

If no one has any resonable objections I will delete it.

[edit] Classical crossover

Also in the section about crossover with classical music, I think Le Grand Tango written by Piazzolla to be performed by Rostropovitch, should be mentioned

Find a reference about Rostropovitch playing Le Grand Tango and bring the info into this article. Binksternet (talk) 03:04, 30 May 2008 (UTC)