Talk:Tangerine Dream discography

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[edit] Style

((this discussion copied from Talk:Tangerine Dream)) --Gadget850 ( Ed)

A text list like it is now, or like Pink Floyd discography, Kylie Minogue discography or The Beatles discography. Also, see the nav box at the bottom of the PF and Beatles pages. All the PF tracks are documented separately: category listing. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 19:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Before commenting on this, I'd have to kno' how much material you're really planning to include... The complete list is this big. Tropylium 13:31, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm quite familiar with the number of albums, and you are correct. Upon reflection, those methods won't work unless we split the discography into separate articles- I'd rather not do that. I think I'd rather see a simple table format without graphics (the sheer number would be burdensome). --Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sohoman/Soundmill

I moved these from the archive releases to the live/studio releases as both are considered to be reworked versions. If anyone disagrees, let's discuss it. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 17:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I pondered about this for a while, and I think the crutch is - are they reworked to the point that they are more 2000s than 80s/70s? The TT-based / "Vault" recordings obviously aren't, while with Kyoto/Blue Dawn (or, indeed, Green Desert) the originals are generally not available so they're best interpreted as new material. Sohoman, Soundmill and Antiq Dreams (the 3rd member of the trio, which you seem to have forgot) are more of remixes, usually close to the originals, which is why I didn't put them in the "original albums" category. But yes, it is an iffy question. ---Tropylium 10:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
No, wait, it looks Kyoto/Blue Dawn were already moovd in the arkive releases list ... so I don't see much point in keeping Sohoman and Soundmill in a separate place. --Tropylium 12:32, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I had forgotten about Antique Dreams- hard to keep track sometimes. I knew there were going to be issues about what is/is not an archive. I didn't split it off like that. Here are some thoughts:

  • Fold the archive releases back into the main discography so we don't have an edit war on this.

or

  • Split the Archives into groups:
    • Tangerine Dream Classics Editions: Sohoman, Soundmill Navigator, Antique Dreams
    • Vault series: Rockface, East, Arizona Live, Vault IV
    • Bootleg Box series
    • Bootmoon series

--Gadget850 ( Ed) 12:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Organization

I added most of the albums that were missing. I have not added singles, compilations, samplers or videos.

  • I think that singles based on an album should be included in the album article; thus Extracts From "Rubycon" would be listed as a single in the article Rubycon.
  • What of other singles such as Ultima Thule, Das Mädchen auf der Treppe or Daydream - Moorland?
I just put Das Mädchen in the soundtrack section (forgot Daydream, tho). Could UT perhaps be added as the "single to Alpha Centauri"? Recall the recent re-releases that have UT in as bonus tracks, and the melodic similarities in UT pt 1 and the middle of Comas Sola. More could be explained in the album article. --Tropylium
Yes, but: UT part 2 has never been released other than the 7" (one of the few missing in my collection). OK. Since both tracks were relased on the 2004 Arcàngelo release (which is in my collection). --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:15, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Added Daydream. --Gadget850 ( Ed)
  • There are unique tracks on samplers such as Ossiach Live, V and others. Do we want to treat these separately or in a single article? done
  • Should there be a separate videography, or keep it here? I'm for keep it here.
  • Compilations: List them all with notes on the contents? Or; just the ones with unique tracks (my preference)?
  • The Tangerine Tree listings need a separate article. done

[edit] Soundtracks

I have Der Meteor as as soundtrack, but its not from a film- perhaps an "other" category? done
List the soundtracks never released such as Vision Quest? Perhaps link to the film article and add comments?

--Gadget850 ( Ed)

IMO there's no need to list every single Brandmale or Kneuss... How about just linking TD's IMDB entry? --Tropylium
Good idea. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 12:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
IMDB has changed something. Why do they only have Tangerine Dream (II)? --Gadget850 ( Ed) Because Tangerine Dream (I) is a porn star. I know I listed TD as a group with about 67 sound tracks a week or so ago (that's where I got "over 65"). --Gadget850 ( Ed) But, we can see where EF is credited as Tangerine Dream, so this link might work. BTW: Brandmale is credited only to EF.

[edit] Compilations

  • Compilations: list them all with notes on the contents--Doktor Who 13:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
done Need to do the listing for i-BOX. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 14:18, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I simplified this a bit - If you really want to list exactly what on Tangents, DRC or iBox is remixed, surely their individual articles would be the place for that?
OK --Gadget850 ( Ed)
(And yes, I kno' that "Soundtracks" isn't exactly an era, but it's easier and goes well with the system here.) --Tropylium 11:43, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Works for me. --Gadget850 ( Ed)

[edit] Images

I'm settling for representative album covers from each era. Trying to add every one will be just too much, and small thumbnails too little. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 22:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Hopefully not only one per era however? There's plenty of vertical space to the right of the Virgin Years at least. Also, an overview picture to the right of the table of contents would be nice ... I'm thinking alongside the lines of those overview pictures in the occasional "I'm selling my whole TD collection" offers on eBay. --Tropylium 11:52, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Whatever fits and looks good. I just added a few yesterday to work out the size. An overview pic sounds interesting. The Legend image is crappy. BTW: I put all the album images into Category:Tangerine Dream albums yesterday.
I added Tangram to the Virgin Years. If you look, the top of the album lines up with its entry on the left. We can go with that, or use covers that are visually appealing. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 19:05, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] bootlegs?

Should there be a discography of bootlegs? I know that of at least one called Staatzgrenze West. It came out in 1981(?), had a very rough sound (almost zoviet-france-ish) and was presumably put out entrapaneurly in spite of the communist east german government.Lil'dummy 10:05, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes- as a separate article. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 11:00, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Bootleg listings are commonly placed in their own section at the end of a discography article. --AlexOvShaolin 00:17, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Only if it were short- see List of Pink Floyd ROIOs or The Beatles bootlegs for example. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 00:55, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bunch of stuff out of order.

When browsing through the albums, and hitting the "next album" link, sometimes it will skip a few albums or some don't even have the previous/next album box.

Just wondering if somebody's up for fixing itMattz1010 11:52, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Can you give us a start? Which ones seem out of order? --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:02, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Here's what I spotted:
  • Going forwards
    • After Tangram, the next one is Quichotte, but that redirects to Pergamon, skipping over everything '81-'85
      • No, wait, there's two infoboxes... which is kind of confusing. I say we stick with just Quichotte in the timeline, Pergamon is nothing more than a re-release.
  • Going backwards
    • Logos > WE, skipping Das Mädchen...
    • Hyperborea > Logos, skipping Daydream/Moorland
    • Poland > Logos, skipping Hyperborea and D/M
    • Le Parc > Poland, skipping Heartbreakers
    • Underwater Sunlight > GD, skipping Legend and Pergamon
  • Risky Business not included at all
What is the standard, again? To link only albums? To link only existing pages? I think I've seen "Band X albums chronology" and "Band X singles chronology" separate with some bands; maybe we could do "TD album" vs "TD soundtracks". --Tropylium 13:40, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I rather forgot about this discussion; this should be fixed now and all the missing albums are filled in from Electronic Meditation through Melrose. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 04:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)