Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines/Collaboration/Precursor

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[edit] Philippine-related Featured Articles project proposal

The following discussion started in Wikipedia:Tambayan Philippines

Currently the only two Philippine-related articles that have Featured Article status that I know of are Battle of Leyte Gulf and Mount Pinatubo. And they're featured articles not because they're Philippine-related but because the first one is a World War II-related article (it's arguably more US- and Japan-related) and it's about the world's largest modern naval battle in history, while the second one is a poster article of Wikipedia:WikiProject Mountains.

It's way past time for the Philippines to have its very own Featured Articles, written primarily by Filipino Wikipedians. I propose that we have a project to select five candidate articles to improve to Featured Article quality by the end of 2005. What these five (or more or less) articles should be would be decided by consensus or vote. The article Philippines is a natural candidate but I feel that it is a little too edit-prone. I'm seeding the nominations below, feel free to suggest other articles. I suggest that we stick to general topics and ones that are easily verifiable. Nominations and voting will close on November 15. This gives a month and a half to bring the selected articles up to Featured Article quality. --seav 01:27, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

I agree, I briefly considered trying to improve Philippines to FA status, but it's way too edit-prone. I'd like to see Manila featured, though it needs more pictures. So, how does this work, should I add a "support" vote down there? :p Coffee 02:21, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

I haven't figured out how to go about voting and nominating at the same time so it's a free for all right now. :p --seav 02:45, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

OK, sounds good, its high time that we do this.--Noypi380 07:46, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Ask for Noypi's help. He has written a featured article and religously follows the wiki guidelines. I hope you're reading this Noypi. About the National Artist, how about mentioning Spolarium of Juan Luna. This painting really should be treated like a Michealangelo painting. It is hard not to worship Jose Rizal, there even is a cult for him. However, non-filipinos might feel the article is exaggerated. --Jondel 04:03, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I'll help, but we have to do this one article at a time, otherwise the people will spread out. --Noypi380 07:46, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

I do feel it's a bit exaggerated--did Rizal really "master" 22 languages, and was he really capable of the 20 to 30-odd fields of art and science mentioned there? As it is, it really sounds like an blatant attempt to make Rizal look like the Filipino Batman. --Migs 15:46, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Good point. Someone should prove that, ans I hope that skills he has are not exag'd. Look! its a bird? a plane? no its translator man, with the powere to speak fluently daw 22 languages! just kidding. :) --Noypi380 13:42, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Since we are talking about this RP related FAs, lets see that we start quickly. I suggest that we all work on an agreed article for one to two weeks. By the time its done, we request that the article be put on Peer Review, (under higher scrutiny, includes non-Filipino wikipedians), and then apply for FA status, if everything turns out to be ok. --Noypi380 08:29, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

While this is being done, we will be working on the next agreed article for the next 1-2 weeks, followed by the same steps, to be followed by the third article, for the next 1-2 weeks. Sana, we'll be like a machine churning out FA after FA. whaja think people? :) --Noypi380 08:29, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

One reason why I wanted a bunch of articles done in a bunch of weeks instead of the usual practice of one article a week is that most contributors do not focus on Wikipedia for weeks on end. With this scheme, at least occasional active contributors (like me) can contribute at their own leisurely pace. But, if you guys want the traditional scheme, I won't object. I'll try to help as much as I can. :) --seav 08:57, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Oh, I assumed otherwise, I thought you wanted it the other way kasi. Come to think about it, the traditional scheme is kinda demanding, especially when a person has real work to do. I'll remove the vote thing below (for my own good as well). :) --Noypi380 09:12, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Comment: I'll support any of these after getting them through Wikipedia:Peer review first, though to get any necessary changes. I mean, for the Tagalog language article alone, I need to cite sources and I haven't had the time to dig through my library to do that. I just don't want you all to go through the support process for nothing. So we have to make sure first. Do I make sense here? :-) --Chris S. 12:38, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, before we even get to peer review, we have to write great articles first. See the following steps below:

The path to a Featured Article

1. Start a new article

2. Research and write a great article

3. Check against the featured article criteria

4. Get creative feedback (Peer review)

5. Apply for featured article status

6. Featured articles

So what we're deciding is which articles to improve to FA quality. Then when we ahve improved them enough, then we get the whole Wikipedia community to Peer Review it. I hope that's clear (I've renamed the "FA Nominations" section below to make it clear that we're not nominating articles for FA immediately). --seav 13:47, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

How about someone selecting RP articles which are near FA status and prioritize them? I'm sure one of you guys have been doing Wikipedia long enough to do a good selection. --Nino Gonzales 11:16, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Hmmmm, I'm not sure bout that, but since there have been nominations already below, perhaps we should stick with it. Diff nominations can be added below, and then after some time, after the articles improve, everybody can decide together. But for the mean time, its free for all nominations, or that is what I think what is going on. :) --Noypi380 15:04, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Nov-Dec 2005 Collaboration Project

The results are in! Here are the articles to improve to FA level: Boracay, José Rizal, Manila.

So how do we go about collaborating on improving the article? I suggest that one person be in charge of coordination for one article on a voluntary basis. Then, start an Featured Article collaboration section on the article's talk page linking back to this project page. Also, a notice should be placed at the start of the article's discussion page. Whatcha think?

Anyway, I volunteer to be the coordinator for the Manila article. --seav

I guess I can coordinate on Boracay, though I'm happy to help push all 3 to FA status if we can. I made {{Philippines collaboration}} to put on talk pages of our target articles. Coffee 17:54, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 2006

Hey what happened? Has any of the nominations reached the status? I want to help out am not sure where to start --Noypi380 07:04, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

i want to nominate the article Marikina City but this article needs a lot of clean up. please help. thanks a lot.RebSkii 17:02, 20 November 2006 (UTC)