User talk:Tamino

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and 80.47.97.131 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • WHOIS • RDNS • trace • RBLs • http • block user • block log)

and User:1Jimbob McCoy2

Welcome!

Hello, Tamino, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! 

BTW, Bra jobbat med Alliance for Sweden! Henrik 10:31, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Civic Platform

Hi Tamino, despite our discussion regarding "The Civic Platform" vs. "Civic Platform", i've gone and reintroduced the "the"s in the article body of Civic Platform. I guess I didn't quite catch on what you meant, before. I wouldn't call it "The Civic Platform" in the title, etc (as we discussed), but in a sentence it ends up as ungrammatical english without the "the"s. Sorry for the confusion :-) Deuar 16:28, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category instructions

Hi there. Which instructions did you use? I'd be happy to check/amend them. —Whouk (talk) 15:42, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see. You should put [[Category:Wikipedians in the United Kingdom|{{subst:PAGENAME}}]] on your user page exactly as it appears, not change PAGENAME to Tamino - that's what the subst: command does. —Whouk (talk) 08:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Call for help now answered

I have discovered a vandal who uses an IP address only (not a user account), but everything on the Wikipedia:Vandalism page seems to be about countering vandals who have a user account. Tamino 08:43, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello. Regardless of whether they are IP address users or registered users, Wikipedia warns and blocks users for repeated vandalism. First warn the user using one of the vandalism notices; then, if they persist, elevate the warning until you have given them a last warning. If they continue to vandalize, report them at the WP:AIV page and an admin will hopefully come along and block the user. If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask again. Cheers, Tangotango 08:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
No worries. An anonymous user will see their talk page just like any other registered user will - an orange message pops up, telling them that they have a new message, and when they look, they'll find your nice juicy vandalism warning. ;) -- Tangotango 09:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Underlined links

That happens to me from time to time too and it's quite annoying. I think it might be a memory issue (when I've had lots of windows open), but I've never been sure. But closing and reopening the browser seems to fix it. —Whouk (talk) 11:31, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The meaning of OW

The following was copied from User Talk:Jdforrester

To my knowledge, OW stands for "Old Waynflete", and refers to an old boy of Magdalen College School, Oxford. I have no idea whether MCS has a Royal Charter allowing the use of these letters; is it necessary? Tamino 13:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

It is to use them in anything other than an informal context, yes. :-)
James F. (talk) 21:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Swedish general election 2006

Hi, as you propably understand, I'm quite an amateur when it comes to Wikipedia (and Internet). But my thing for polls have kept me updating the page. That is, I'm glad to help. Detinu 08:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Great work on the election articles Tamino! Itake 03:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sweden during WWII POV request

Not sure if you were still monitoring the request that you made on Wikipedia:Swedish_Wikipedians'_notice_board/Other_requests_for_improvement#NPOV

So I'll answer here too: I can't say much about the subject. However, unsourced claims can be freely removed as per Wikipedia:Verifiability.

Fred-Chess 13:49, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oxford election 2006

Hello - Probably I didn't go about it the right way: I think the article on the controversy should be merged with that on OUCA, which it affected much more than the council elections. I see the view that it may be considered relevant to the elections, but it didn't seem so at all at the time. Also, similar contorversies in Tower Hamlets & Birmingham are not mentioned on those pages (principally though because the pages don't exist!).

Thirdly (changing topic a bit), I was a bit concerned that it was labelled as it was: no charges have as yet been brought, so perhaps it might be renamed "Nomination form controversy" or something to avoid the candidate being considered complicit in something perhaps not his fault. 129.67.53.94 16:25, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I have replied to your message on your talk page.

[edit] Frida Johansson Metso image, copyright issues

Hello! While your efforts are appreciated, I don't think you fully understand the Fair Use policies of Wikipedia. Please read this again:

Please note that our policy usually considers fair use images of living people that merely show what they look like to be replaceable by free-licensed images and unsuitable for the project. If this is not the case for this image, a rationale should be provided proving that the image provides information beyond simple identification or showing that this image is difficult to replace by a free-licensed equivalent. Commercial third-party reusers of this image should consider whether their use is in violation of the subject's publicity rights.

Basically, it says that even the new image can be deleted as it is unfree and it is possible to get a free replacement. I'd propose it for deletion, but I thought I'd explain why to you first, so I'll hold for a while. What I suggest you do is for you to read Wikipedia:Fair use, and attempt to find a free image of Frida Johansson Metro by contacting her or LUF and asking them to release a picture under a free license. You can either ask them to give you a new image released under a free license, or to license an existing picture under a free license. Thereafter, you upload the free image to Wikimedia Commons and forward the e-mail releasing the picture under a free license to Wikimedia Commons. Please read here: Commons:Email templates. Of course, you could also hunt her down and snap a picture of her yourself ;) Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 20:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I see. I thought that fair use images were acceptable until someone actually uploaded a free image, but it's clear from the policy that you quoted that they don't seem to be useable under normal circumstances. The LUF website is a bit contradictory, saying in one place that the images are for "free" use (provided they are attributed), and in another says non-commercial use (again if attributed). It would be a whole lot easier if they just put them under a Creative Commons Attribution License.... Unfortunately I can't chase her up and take a photo (annoying - I should have taken one when I met her in 2006, when she was 2nd Deputy Chairperson, but I didn't have a camera and had no idea I'd be contributing to an article about her) because I'm in England now, and up to my ears in revision. Me being busy also makes the e-mail idea a little difficult, especially considering that the declaration of consent should be in English (as well as or instead of Swedish?). And should the e-mail be in English or in Swedish (I could do either)?
I do see that we can't keep the picture there indefinately (although I notice there are a huge number of publicity photos on Wikipedia - are they all impossible to replace?). How do you think we should proceed? Tamino 20:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
If the LUF website is contradictory, it's best to assume the worst - otherwise we might get into trouble. Sadly, that will mean the photos of the Members of the Riksdag included in the 200+ articles I've created in them will be gone soon...
The publicity photos will probably be gone in due time. One could argue it's quite hard to snap a picture of, say, Madonna, though, as celebrities tend to shy away from photographers...
In any case. As my plans for the evening are ruined and I have nothing better to do, I can contact LUF and explain the problem. You can leave it to me. :) Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 20:48, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks a lot - I hope it's not too much trouble. As to the Riksdag pictures, don't delete them unless you're absolutely sure, because freedom of information law should mean that they are free use (at least free publication, rather than modification or sale). One last question: if you create an image on Commons with the same name as an image in Wikipedia, does the Commons image override and delete the Wikipedia one? Tamino 20:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
I sure won't delete them, but the commons guys will. It's just that they are released with the text Bilden är fri att använda i sammanhang där riksdagen och riksdagens arbete beskrivs. Reproduktion i reklam och marknadsföring är inte tillåten. which complies with Offentlighetsprincipen but not with Wikipedia's licensing rules. The licensing of the Riksdag pictures was more vague earlier, which allowed for the upload of all these images, but it has now been clarified and found to be in breach of Commons rules. So, off they go :/
As for your question, no. If there is a local copy of an image, the article will use that one first, and if there isn't, it will use the commons one. Often, however, images on Wikipedia are deleted if there is a similar image on commons. The process is however not automatic. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 21:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Ouch. Someone will need to copy all the pictures to Wikipedia. Hope they understand that at Commons otherwise there'll be a lot of red links to non-existant images in articles.... Tamino 21:09, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
That can't be done, as they suffer from the same problem as the Metso image - they can't be used as we can get free replacements. However, there are bots that remove deleted images from articles, so there's no need to worry about that. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 21:26, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
By the way, I've mailed LUF now. I'll send you a copy right away. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 21:27, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Got the e-mail, it looks great. Nu håller vi tummarna :) Tamino 10:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LUF images released!

Hello Tamino. I just thought you'd like to know that during my abscence in Stockholm I received an e-mail saying:

Hej Jobjörn
De pressbilder som finns på vår webb är fria i enlighet med cc-by-sa-2.5-se, det vill säga att det står er fritt att kopiera, distribuera, visa och framföra verket under förutsättning att ni erkänner upphovsmannen, i detta fall Alex Taylor. Räcker detta besked eller krävs det att formalisera detta?
/Anders

In other words, press images from luf.se are to be considered released under an acceptable Creative Commons license! I have forwarded the e-mail to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org, hopefully they'll accept even though it's in Swedish. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 23:46, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

That's great! When will we know whether the permissions people have accepted it? Then the picture can be moved to Commons. Great work! Tamino 19:00, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Commons permission for LUF?

Have Commons accepted the e-mail from LUF yet? If they accept it how will we know (or if they reject it for that matter)? Tamino 18:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I received an e-mail from them a few days that I've only just replied to:
Dear Jobjörn Folkesson,
Thank you for your mail.
The form of the permission you forwarded to us would be enough if it wasn't for the ambiguity of their choice of license and their own explanation of its terms.
They agree to cc-by-sa-2.5-se, mentioning that copying, distributing, displaying, and performing the work is allowed, and that they have to be attributed for the images. They however don't say anything about derivative works being allowed or sharealike conditions, as mentioned in the Creative Commons deed http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/se/deed.se .
Could you please clear this up with them? Thank you.
Yours sincerely,
Antti Aaltonen
I've replied to Commons, inquiring what exactly I should ask LUF for, in order to not bother LUF all too much. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 19:52, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Surely if LUF specified cc-by-sa-2.5-se then the images are released under the conditions of that licence? I don't know what more Permissions want really, but I suppose it'll be cleared up eventually. Tamino 13:47, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Orange Book.jpg

Hello Tamino, an automated process has found an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, such as fair use. The image (Image:Orange Book.jpg) was found at the following location: User:Tamino/Orange Book infobox draft. This image or media will be removed per statement number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media will be replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg , so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. The image that was replaced will not be automatically deleted, but it could be deleted at a later date. Articles using the same image should not be affected by my edits. I ask you to please not readd the image to your userpage and could consider finding a replacement image licensed under either the Creative Commons or GFDL license or released to the public domain. Thanks for your attention and cooperation. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 03:33, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gothenburg tram

Why has CmdrObot been adding   everywhere in front of "km" in the Gothenburg tram article? What function does this have? Tamino 10:07, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Tamino, nonbreaking spaces are used to make sure that the number and the unit stay together on the same line regardless of the width of the web page. It's part of the SI typesetting recommendations and is also here in the Manual of Style. Cheers, CmdrObot 14:03, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, now I know. A good idea actually. Tamino 16:57, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free image (Image:Frida Johansson Metso.jpg)

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[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:LDYS logo.gif)

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